Oklahoma Children's Home Society early 1900s
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Ok folks here we go: I couldn’t find a listing for the children’s home in Guthrie 1916, maybe it had shut down by then? Moved to OKC? I did find the listing for OKC 1916 :
Oklahoma Children’s Home Society
234 Terminal Arcade Bldg A, John Embry pres, RS Bradshaw sec,J F Warren treas, C G G Putney state supt
*(Charles G Putney is the man who was in the article - he was the State Superintendent of Charities and Corrections at that time)*
From the OKC City Directory 1916
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You struck Gold!
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Now, this further complicates the search. The July 29, 1916 Newspaper article with the girls pictures called the home "Oklahoma Children's Home Finding Society", the article below say the "Oklahoma Children's Home Finding and Welfare League" is different from the "Oklahoma Children's Home Society." The word "finding" confuses things even more. So, which is it?
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Jim, this is the reason that I shared this article with you. It seems like people were confusing the names in 1916. I don't think that we can be sure which name is correct. It certainly wouldn't hurt to try to find records for the "Oklahoma Children's Home Finding Society," as well. If the records were somehow mislabeled over a hundred years ago, no one would question the wrong label now.
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Looks like the Oklahoma Children's Home Society is agreeing to take all the orphans from Chickasha for $50 a head. Like cattle.
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Hopefully, their intent was good and they were reimbursing for expenses for the children. We can be grateful that churches and other organizations cared enough to try to provide homes for the poor, neglected, abandoned, orphaned, and others that needed homes. We live in a different time now. There are many more resources available for families and children. Hopefully, we have learned from the past and can better provide for needy children now. It is still hard when we are talking about the struggles of our own family members. I am very impressed that you are actively trying to discover information about your sisters. This must be difficult for you not knowing what happened to your sister. I do hope this community can come together and help you find out what happened to her. My guess is many community members are learning research techniques as they watch this story unfold. I do hope that ALL community members feel safe and know that we WELCOME comments. This community is not made up of a team of experts. Instead, we are individuals that care and are willing to use our strengths to reach out and help others. I am thankful for everyone that is here and I do hope that we can each use our strengths to help.
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When this search first started I was under the assumption that the home was named "Oklahoma Children's Home Finding Society" however, early on, I received this from a lady who suggested I contact your group "Do you mean The Oklahoma Children’s Home Society? I believe there was one in Guthrie on Arthur/Author Street, and there was definitely one in Oklahoma City, I believe it’s still there. The Oklahoma historical society has some records, but they’re not available online. If you have any luck please let me know. I’m researching this organization as well. Good Luck! *ancestry doesn’t accept my post response in message boards ... not sure why*" I can find nothing with the name "Oklahoma Children's Home Finding Society" although that's what the July 29, 1916 article says they are housed.
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We know about Josephine and the Handys. That's John's mother and grandparents.
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I think the July 29, 1916 writer got the name wrong. I haven't found anyone who recognizes the name "Oklahoma Children's Home Finding Society." When I Google I don't find anything either. Also, the 1916 accounting that lists all the homes in Oklahoma does not include that name. Only the Oklahoma Children's Home Society.
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An important part of family research is to think about their FAN club. Learn about their Friends, Associates, and Neighbors. As you learn more about Josephine and the Handy family, you will have the potential to learn more about Lois. We will solve the mystery about Lois through little clues that fit together like pieces of a puzzle. Keep track of all of the clues, because the littlest clue could be the most important clue.
I was able to figure out a birth mother one time because I knew that she worked at JoAnn's Fabric store in x year. I used this information to match up with my suspect when I found her on LinkedIn. The family had not thought that this clue was significant. I didn't realize how significant it would be, but I knew to record it.
I try to start writing a story about the individuals that I search, and I embellish it with details about their life, family, location, work history, school, or anything that I can find. I find that as I add the details to their story, I find more clues.
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Although this says Terminal Arcade Bldg, I believe the home was located on N.W. 10th in OKC.
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The home in Guthrie was run by the Masons. The one in OKC was run by the state, I believe.
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Perhaps you could find a copy of this article:
The Chronicles of Oklahoma Volume 95, Number 4 (Winter 2017–18)
“Taking Care of Their Own: History of the Masonic Children’s Home in Guthrie, Oklahoma” by Pamela Webb
During territorial days, Masons began to discuss plans to create facilities to care for orphans, widows, and the elderly. By 1907 they had opened their first facility for children. Pamela Webb explains how the Masonic Children’s Home came to be, and portrays the life of the children who were nurtured in that environment.
Perhaps, this would be available from the Oklahoma Historical Society. They might be willing to send you a copy of one or two pages for personal use in your research project.
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@x24mon @Carolyn Webber @John JohnRigler1
I'm still waiting for some responses in the mail and waiting for the DHS to call me about how to get adoption records unsealed (left my number twice but still no call). I've put my DNA on every site I know of. That may be our only hope and that would be dependent upon Lois marrying someone. I don't think one can be optimistic about whether we'll ever find Lois or about the life she had after the adoption if there was one.
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Stay optimistic! My personal family mystery was solved, and the initial clues were so small. I am a believer in continuing to pound away at the clues until the answer is found. The information is probably still available, you just need to be determined to keep checking for records.
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@X24mom does the source for the May and CD Davis marriage list a middle name for Mae? (assuming Mae is accurate spelling)
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@Jim Kilby I understand how easily you can get discouraged, especially after pouring so much energy and time into this. I think we’ve all been there. But the key to finding Lois is persistence! Never give up! Just look at how much you’ve learned about your family over the past few months! It’s amazing! We will find Lois, the clues keep coming and the puzzles pieces will fall into place😊 A word of advice about the county and DHS, call them as often as you possibly can cause your messages will get buried under a stack of papers. Keep calling til you get to talk to whomever is in charge of making those things happen for you😊 most importantly please don’t give up! There’s still tons of things we haven’t searched. All the counties probate files, all the newspapers, church records, schools, so many things to still look for!
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i believe I read at one time, they moved to another building ...I’m not sure where the article is. I’ll find it though
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If you read the info I sent the other day that shows the children’s Home Society “law”, it says they get paid or reimbursed to some degree, i guess from the state? For each child ... I was also reading some of the info from the old Indian Orphanages where it looks like (I could be wrong) but it looks like the folks (native Americans) were surrendering parts of their lands to the orphanage as some sort of “payment” or “donation” for taking the children in. All very interesting stuff
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Also I should mention there was some sort of scandal with the superintendent Noah Wickham (he was the super at Guthrie before Charles Putney became the Super at OKC) but they were accusing him of what looks like embezzlement, misappropriating funds etc ... maybe this is what lead to the home being started or moved to OKC?
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I searched for death records for "Lois" in Oklahoma between 1908-1926. There is not a Lois Kilby listed, but if she was adopted, she could have a different last name.
https://www.okhistory.org/research/deathrec.php?fname=lois&lname=&action=Search
Oklahoma became a state in November 1907. The state began accepting birth and death records for filing in October of 1908. The filing of these records became mandatory in 1917, however the practice of filing birth and death records with the state did not become routine until the 1940’s when they began to be used for identification purposes.
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X24mom...do you have access to the 1916 Oklahoma City and Guthrie phone books? The newspaper article says Oklahoma Children's Home Finding Society. If no listing in either place then must figure there wasn't one by that name.
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Lol I did the same thing. And if you look at it closely, most of those are the same person so that narrows it down to like 4-5 people
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Oh I did the ok2explore search... I get annoyed with the ohs pages lol they have tons of info but you need to know the names etc. I like to just browse the records for clues lol but can’t do it there on the site
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Yes I do @Jim Kilby that’s the one I posted yesterday. The newspapers had a habit of calling places by their common known name. Like when my grandfather was adopted they called it the Baptist orphans home ... when it was actually the Oklahoma Baptist home for children. So the Oklahoma children’s Home Society and the oklahkma children’s home finding society were most likely the same place. The common denominator here is Charles Putney. He was the Superintendent of the OKC location in 1916... and he was in the article about the girls. So we can only assume they were in the OKC location.
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Ummmm.... I seem to remember you posted a countdown early in the conversation? I’ll see if I can find it
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You didn’t list a 3rd. But second wife was ANNA KYTLE they married in Oct 1917
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