US1910Project
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The 1910 census project is a disaster.
What if the project instead of creating untold duplicates would create lists of 1910 census persons not linked to any tree for each county in the country then refer the list to genealogy groups or perhaps church members in each county. There is nothing like "local feet on the ground" for accurate and complete genealogy.
So often, a local researcher can look at a mis-spelled or badly butchered family name and give a correct or preferred spelling.
I hate to think what could be coming with a similar project for 1920, 1930, etc.
I am not a member of the church, but really appreciate the familysearch tree and have been working for more than 4 years to make my small part of the tree as accurate, complete and well sourced as possible.
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Everytime I research a family and see that the 1910 Project has added sources, I know that I have a big clean up job facing me because you cannot add people to FamilySearch from one record, disregarding other records that might pertain to that person, and not have duplicates. This project is a very BAD idea and is causing unnecessary duplication and confusion in the wiki tree. I wish they would stop! This kind of simplistic "research" has always resulted in poor and misleading information in the tree. No experienced researcher could ever think this was a good idea! PLEASE STOP!
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My impression is the 1910 Project participants are the newest of newbie contributors. At least they are being taught how to attach sources. And FamilySearch official guidance is that when in doubt, create a new profile rather than merge or attach sources where they do not belong.
So, I try to be very, very patient with these contributors even though at times I am very annoyed by their rampant duplicates.
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I've been merging duplicates for weeks from this Project. Today iced it for me. I was attaching a source to a woman with her children, but with no husband. The source linker brought up 5 possible husbands for her, of the same name. No dates, no sources, Each with a different child. All from the Project. None of the chldren the same as the original family. How could I possibly know if they belong to this family!!! I don't dare create my own husband/father for fear the mess will just get worse! Do I dare continue? As frustrating as this is to users of Family Search, how must those waiting for their ordinances to be done, be feeling? "Yes, I'm up, oh no, I'm not......"
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How could I possibly know if they belong to this family!!!
The project attaches historical records. Look at the attachments.
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dontiknowyou,
I'm sorry.There are no attachments to identify these men and their child, and that is the problem. But I must apologize, the 5 suggested possible husbands don't say they are from the project, it is the mother and her children that were put into Family Search by the project.
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For you who have commented recently, these are NOT newbies making innocent mistakes. This is a BYU sponsored project, I contacted someone there and complained. You might be able to scroll back and read about it. No remorse and I fear they will do something like this again.
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I was disappointed to receive an email from FamilySearch inviting me to participate in the 1910 Project.
I believe the 1910 Project is an ill-conceived idea.
Every family I have researched who has had the 1910 Census attached by this project has had duplicate spouses and children added to the family that I have had to merge to clean up the family and to stop further duplication of temple ordinances.
This activity is teaching very poor research skills. As a research consultant at FamilySearch I encourage guests to RESEARCH RESPONSIBLY by throughly documenting a person before adding them to FamilySearch, especially if they lived in a time period when many documents and resources are available. Many times thorough research using the tools and partner subscriptions provided by the church shows that the person in question is already in the system.
PLEASE STOP THIS SENSELESS PROJECT!!!!
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I thought this project had ended, but I see it is still out there making a bigger mess than ever. A family I have spent weeks sorting because someone uploaded a GEDCOM has now just been returned to the former mess by the US1910Project.
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I thought this project had ended, but I see it is still out there making a bigger mess than ever. A family I have spent weeks sorting because someone uploaded a GEDCOM has now just been returned to the former mess by the US1910Project.
Argh!!!!!
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I should add - the mess was made without even adding a 1910 census to the family.
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Someone with the login is still using it, and perhaps not aware they are using a project login they shouldn't be using anymore.
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The US1910Project is a BYU project. The head of the project is Professor Joe. He told me that the URLs of records that need to be merged should be sent to him. He or his staff will merge the records and also be used as a teaching tool. Unfortunately this disastrous project won't end, and Familysearch won't stop it.
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Given the mess his group creates, I would not trust his group to do the merging and fixing. Thanks anyway.
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I agree, it's frustrating.
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Today I spent a lot of time cleaning up after them. I was moved to offer feedback about one especially bad job and tried to message them. But I couldn't: in Family Tree their contact information is disabled!
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One post has been edited and one has been deleted to remove personally identifiable information.
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@Paul W Community Guidelines specifically say that personal details cannot be shared. This forum is not private. There is always a risk that a spammer will capture info from the Community and use it inappropriately.
https://www.familysearch.org/en/help/helpcenter/article/community-code-of-conduct
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What might help is if someone would invite the professor to join us here.
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Thank you for clarifying.
Situation now understood - please ignore my comments.
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@Vartika
May I post a link to professor Joe's public BYU page?
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Hey Everyone!
We are reaching out to Joe to find out what he would like us to post as far as contact info for him. I'll get back to you on this. Sam 😊
You can get info on their website and their Facebook page. Both contain the email to the Record Linking Lab.
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Just when I thought it couldn't get worse, today I discovered a duplicate household created by US1910Project from the 1900 census. Looks like there's going to be even more terrible duplicates to sift through in short order.
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The US1910Project students are missing a step.
- Find a household in a census that has not been attached to Family Tree.
- Check for additional historical records and Family Tree profiles of that family.
- Attach the census record to the family in Family Tree, creating new profiles only if necessary.
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I've also found some instances where US1910Project had created people then failed to actually attach the 1910 census records as sources...
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I just found out from Professor Joe, the head of the us1910project, that they create a new record for a person if there isn't a record hint for the 1910 census 😒
New record=new profile
Since the us1910project isn't going away or changing their procedures, I'll be emailing Professor Joe a monthly list of all the duplicates I had to merge due to his project. I hope all of you will consider doing the same.
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The project could Follow the profiles they create and see what the result is.
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This makes zero sense. What version of the 1910 census are they operating off, in order to create new people?? Do they not just look for 1910 records that aren't attached to a person already in order to create the household?
Here's a particularly egregious example of the work this project puts forth:
https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/changelog/GF84-PZX
https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/changelog/GF8M-L8S
Two identical people, created one day apart, with no sources attached. Sure does look like there's a severe lack of quality control...
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