Consistent family tree position

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Julie Ann Moriyama said: On the tree view my name (as a woman) just flipped to the top. The tree should be consistent throughout, men on top and women on the bottom.

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Tom Huber said: Welcome to the community support forum for FamilySearch. FamilySearch personnel read every discussion thread and may or may not respond as their time permits. We all share an active interest in using the resources of this site and as users, we have various levels of knowledge and experience and do our best to help each other with concerns, issues, and/or questions.

While this was certainly the situation in the past, the ability to display **** couples set up a new scenario, in which either sex can be displayed in either position.

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Brett said: Julie

Here is "Knowledge Article" in "FamilySearch" that may help:

How do I switch parent or spouse positions to change the display of family lines in Family Tree?
https://www.familysearch.org/help/sal...

Quote:
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Information:

By default, in the pedigree landscape view, the name of a male spouse or parent appears above the name of the female spouse or parent. In portrait view, the male name appears to the left of the female name. Structuring the couple relationship this way affects how the rest of the family line displays. In landscape view, paternal lines move diagonally upward; maternal lines, by contrast, move diagonally downward.

In male-female relationships, you cannot change this arrangement. You can, however, change the arrangement for **** relationships, or in relationships where a female would traditionally display in the male's position. In the landscape view, for example, you can choose which spouse or parent to list on top and which to list on the bottom. In portrait view, you can choose which spouse or parent to situate on the left and which to situate on the right.

Steps (website)

1. Navigate to the Person page of one of the spouses.
2. Scroll down to the Family Members box.
3. Click the pencil icon on the right of the box containing the couple relationship or the parent-child relationship.
4. Under Tools, click Switch Spouse Positions.
5. Enter your reason for the change of positions, and then click Save.

Steps (mobile)

1. Navigate to the Person page of one of the spouses or children.
2. Tap Spouses or Parents.
3. Tap the down arrow for the spouse.
4. Tap the pencil icon.
5. Tap Switch.
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I hope it does.

Brett

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joe martel said: Julie, you have found a bug that the team is working on. It should not be arbitrarily flipping the the existing couple position, but you can alter yourself https://www.familysearch.org/help/salesforce/viewArticle?urlname=How-do-I-switch-parent-or-spouse-positions-to-change-the-display-of-family-lines-in-Family-Tree&lang=en

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Brett said: Joe

'Yes' ... I thought it sounded a bit odd ...

Wondered how such could occur; except, in a "Same_Gender" Relationship!?

The only thing that I was aware of was that "Knowledge Article" that we have both referenced.

Brett

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Jeff Wiseman said: Joe,

The second paragraph in your reference states that the ability to swap position in a normal male-female relationship is not possible. The "Switch Spouse Positions" button is not there under the tools.

So until they fix this exact problem that you are referring to, it appears that nothing can be done yet to correct the positioning when this odd situation occurs. Here's another example:

https://getsatisfaction.com/familysea...

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Leroy Roberts said: It depends on who's person page you are on when you press "View Tree". If you are on the wife's page, her name will be on top. If your on the husband's page, his name will be on top.

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JT said: Good point - seems logical enough.

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Brett said: All

Oh, wow ...

NOW I see what all the 'kerfuffle' is about ...

We just "Signed In" with my Wife's "FamilySearch" Account ...

NOW, all of a sudden, in her Account, in the "Landscape" 'Pedigree' view, she appears above me; and, her Ancestral lines expand in the Top of the page/screen ...

No wonder it is NOT well received by many ...

I would suggest, a "Change" that was NOT "Driven" by the (majority) of the Users/Patrons ...

Good to hear it is a problem/issue that is being worked on to address/fix ...

Brett

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Tom Huber said: This problem is further discussed in the https://getsatisfaction.com/familysea... discussion.

The traditional husband/wife relationship (with husband on top) should always be displayed that way, regardless of how the landscape pedigree was reached.

The only time it would use the traditional approach would be with a **** relationship.

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Jeff Wiseman said: Right. In the new **** couple relationships, there is no obvious default, so you need the new "swap position" tool in the couple relationship fly-out in order to set which name should always be on top.

(Tom I think you meant to say "use the NON-traditional approach would be with a **** relationship")

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Tom Huber said: Yeah, in rereading what I wrote, that is what I meant to write...

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Lori Hamilton said: CONSISTENCY is what I care about.....and that lack of consistency is now confusing on my own line (as a female) and when I'm helping others navigate through their tree. CONSISTENCY is what we need - always male on top/female below, and male on left/female on right.

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Tom Huber said: The male - female relationship is one that we've been told is a known problem and hopefully, before long, it will be resolved.

The problem is demonstrated in the https://getsatisfaction.com/familysea... discussion about six days ago (toward the bottom of the discussion.

Some of the problem has been resolved, but not entirely. Miss Huber (unmarried) is now consistently shown in the correct place in her box. But not her mother, who is the focus person in the tree.


She remains out of place if I change the focus person to her father. However, if I change the focus person to Miss Huber, she remains in the correct position.

This problem has not been resolved fully. Only if there is no spouse listed does the female remain in the correct position in a tree view.

I tried signing out and then signing back in again, and the problem remained with Sarah Belle Anthony remaining in the upper position.

But, when I made Miss Huber the focus person, the parents' positions reverted to the way it should be.

Here is the sequence that puts things out of place for a female.

Open the landscape pedigree view.

1, Click on any femaie on the display and select "tree". This places the focus of the refreshed chart on the female and places her in the upper position (incorrect when no **** relationship is involved).

2. Now click on the father (Henry Miller Anthony) and make him the focus. Sarah Belle Anthony remains in the upper position, although she is now shown as a child.

Changing the pedigree view (Portrait, Descendancy, and Fan -- and back to landscape) does not correct the problem.

Changing the focus to a sibling and back to the father does not correct the problem.

3. Now select one of Sarah Belle Anthony's children -- it doesn't matter which one and make them the focus of the tree. That action corrects the problem.

This still is a problem and so I repeated the above information in a couple of other discussions.