Memories: Need way to hide Click Image to Tag prompt

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Ray Batig said: Hello,

The Memories Click Image to tag prompt continues to get in the way of seeing what is displayed in attached photos which do not contain people!

This is what the image looks like just after uploding:



This is what the page looks like when you try to Process the upload:



You can see that there is nothing to tag in this picture of my great grandfather's headstone, and there is no way to make the tag prompt go away or at least move it off of the picture so you can see it. The Unprocessed information bar also never goes away.

I have uploaded hundreds of pics like this and am getting tired of not being able to see what is in the picture. I do not believe it is a good idea simply to tag the whole photo since I believe that the purpose of tagging the photo is to allow people to see all the photos in which our ancestors are tagged.

I believe it would be a simple thing to add a button on the Click the image to tag XX that would would simply Hide the tag prompt. There may be other ways as well, however, we need this fixed.

I have found no workarounds to deal with this issue.

Thank You!

Ray

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Jordi Kloosterboer said: I would tag the name in the picture.

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Christina Sachs Wagner said: Same

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Brett said: Ray

As far as I am aware; and, I stand corrected if I am wrong ...

That first image with the "Unprocessed 'i' " Banner has NOTHING to do with "Tagging".

That "Unprocessed 'i' " Banner indicates that the Image has NOT been, Viewed and Approved (ie. 'Vetted'), by "FamilySearch" as being Acceptable.

Once an Image has been, 'Viewed' and 'Approved', by "FamilySearch"; and, deemed as being 'Acceptable'; then, that "Unprocessed 'i' " Banner will go (ie. disappear) - or at least should.

Sometimes the 'Viewing' and 'Approval', by "FamilySearch", my take a little longer than usual.

The "Red" 'Exclamation Mark" in both those Images indicates that there is NO "Tag" on that Image.

There IS something to "Tag" on the Image, your Great Grandfather!

Just "Tag" the "Name" of your Great Grandfather's name on the Image; and, the "Red" 'Exclamation Mark" in both those Images; and, the "Banner" for such in the second Image, will go away (ie. disappear).

Where possible, best not to leave an "Memory" as "Untagged".

The prompt to "Tag" an Image will NOT go away (ie. disappear) until the Image is "Tagged".

There should be no requirement to "Hide" the prompt to "Tag" an Image; as, an Image should have a "Tag", where possible.

Just my thoughts.

Brett

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Don M Thomas said: Ray Batig, wait a good little while and then click on the banner, "Click the image to tag Edwin Gustaf Larson." The name of Edwin Gustaf Larson will come up as white lettering in a black box with a blue button that will say "Save." Hit on the blue save button.

After waiting a good little while and the above does not work, hit on the Image and a box will come up that you can make small or large, and under the box is a place to type in the name Edwin Gustaf Larson. Make sure that the name you type in has the same PID or Identification Number that Edwin Gustaf Larson has in the "Family Tree." If the program does not find Edwin Gustaf Larson then you can use his PID or Identification Number to find him and associate your photos or information to the correct Edwin Gustaf Larson.

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Ray Batig said: Hi Brett,

After looking at your reply I see that the Approval process took care of my first comment.

However, the Memories description offered by FamilySearch says:

"People Tags. These allow you to designate who is in the photo and link them to their person page in Family Tree so other relatives can enjoy the photo as well. "

Headstones, military ribbons and pins, as well as family home pictures are not "People" and thus should not be tagged. When I search for all the images tagged for a person that is what I expect to see and that is what the stated purpose of tagging is.

The photos of items that I have been uploading are tied to one person and therefore really do not need to be tagged.

I am looking for some help from the software people to make the Memories show up without the tag prompt and also using the tag on people only.

I even tried to upload the headstone photo to the documents section but that still has the tag prompt present.

Fixing this problem is very easy if only someone will pick up the ball...

Ray

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Ray Batig said: Hi Don,

Yes you just described how the tag process works, however, I have no problem with it I just want the capability to make the Tag people prompt go away when there are NO PEOPLE in the photo.

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Brett said: Ray

Even if the Image (ie. Photograph) ONLY has ONE person in it, the Image (ie. Photograph) should STILL be "Tagged", they really DO need to be "Tagged" - hence, if that is done; then, no problem/issue.

Even if the Image (ie. Photograph) does not have a "person" in it, there must be some reference to the person's name; and, if such is the case; then, place the "Tag" around their name.

Brett

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Brett said: Ray

Even if the Image (ie. Photograph) ONLY has ONE person in it, the Image (ie. Photograph) should STILL be "Tagged", they really DO need to be "Tagged" - hence, if that is done; then, no problem/issue.

Even if the Image (ie. Photograph) does not have a "person" in it, there must be some reference to the person's name; and, if such is the case; then, place the "Tag" around their name.

Brett

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Tom Huber said: I take a slightly different approach

First, I do not add gravestones as memory items. If there is no cemetery record (Find s Grav e or Billion Graves), then I add it a the gravestone photo, then source the cemetery record.

But...

If the image is that of a memorial (a cenotaph), then I consider the name to be the same as an image of a person, and tag that.

Having said that, there is an important issue that involves your request — and that is a photograph of a family homestead, where there are no people in the scanned image.

I believe that we need an option to dismiss the prompt to tag a person...

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Jessie Hearle said: https://familysearch.org/ask/productS...

“Tagging photos and documents identifies the people who are in them. Tags can also ensure that the photo or document appears with that person’s record in Family Tree.”

So as others have stated, if wish a memory to be linked to a person, it needs to be tagged to that person

Note that pdfs are tagged differently;

“For pdf files, simply go to the "Who is in this memory?" search bar and type in the ancestor's name. Tagging specific locations on the photo or document is currently not available for pdfs.”

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Brian Eric Olsen said: I agree I find this issue very frustrating. Please fix it.

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Brett said: Ray (and, others)

Even if a "Memory" (ie. Photograph; Document; Story; and/or, Audio) DOES NOT contain the, 'Picture' or 'Name' or 'Reference' of/to an individual/person (eg. a "... family homestead, where there are no people..."), it is best to "Tag" the, in fact, any, individual/person, directly related to it.

'Jessie' referenced this matter; and, the corresponding "Knowledge Article" in "FamilySearch", in the proceeding "Reply":

How do I tag memories of my ancestors or relatives in Family Tree?
https://www.familysearch.org/help/sal...

Here is another related "Knowledge Article" in "FamilySearch" on the matter:

How do I tag people in stories and audio files?
https://www.familysearch.org/help/sal...

As an aside ...

One aspect that has not been fleshed out here, is that if there is more than one individual/person related to a particular "Memory"; then, once you have added the "Memory" to one individual/person; plus, added the appropriate "Tag"; then, there is NO need to add/copy that that "Memory" to any other associated individual/person; as, all that is need/required to include that particular "Memory" against OTHER individuals/persons in "Family Tree" of "FamilySearch", is to "Add" ADDITIONAL "Tags" for ALL those individuals/persons that you WANT to include with that "Memory" - it may be ONE; or, it may be MANY.

Hence, the IMPORTANCE of "Adding" a "Tag" to a "Memory", regardless if such "Memory" ONLY relates to ONE individual/person.

Question: What happens if later 'down the track' you or another User/Patron 'finds out'/identifies that the "Memory" ALSO actually relates to ANOTHER (or, OTHER) individual(s)/Person(s), that was not originally/readily available at the earlier time.

Answer: You have to FIRSTLY "Added" the INITIAL "Tag"; and, then, SECONDLY "Add" any SUBSEQUENT "Tags" for OTHER individuals/persons.

Best advice, 'bite the bullet', just "Add" the "Tag" for the/a (ie. ONE) individual/person.

And, '"Wa-lah" (more properly, "Voila"), problem/issue solved/addressed.

NO more ... "! Click the Image to Tag ..." ... banner!

Personally, I do not think that there is a need to add the ability to "Dismiss" such a banner - but, that is just me.

Just my thoughts.

Brett

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Ray Batig said: Hi,

I understand everything you say. However, as stated by FamilySearch Memories tags are for people and thus not for things.

I seee this request is going no where so I will drop the issue and leave all the memories I have uploaded that do not include people and thus bear the tag people banner untagged. Hopefully someone in the FamilySearch software group will read this thread and fix the issue.

Ray

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Don M Thomas said: Ray, just hit on the tag banner and a box will come up with the name in white lettering and in a black box. See the blue save button. Hit on the blue save button and the Red Exclamation Mark and tag banner will disappear.

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Christina Sachs Wagner said: I would understand that to mean you shouldn't tag something as "Aunt Mildred's Headstone" but tagging it as "Mildred Smith" and attaching it to her PID. correctly links this headstone to her personal page of memories.

jmho
Tina

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Christina Sachs Wagner said: Also, I rarely wait until a photo is processed. I just click past the "unprocessed" banner and start tagging the photo

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Don M Thomas said: I have noticed that if I wait a good little while, the tag with white lettering and in a black box with a blue save button will show up. If you wait for that black box with the blue save button, you will not have to tag the photo or document more than once.

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Don M Thomas said: Ray, if you are talking about changing your photo's with no people in them to documents, you can hit on your photo's, (go into them), and then go up to where it says, "Actions." Hit on "Actions" and then go down and hit on "Change to Document." Doing the above will move your Photo/Document out of Photo''s and into the Document section of "Memories." This you can do vice versa.