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Nolan Bateman said: This was a idea I had last fall. We where able to do a booth at Norsk Høstfest which is North Americas largest Norweign event. Held at the North Dakota State fair complex. See https://www.hostfest.com/

We where able to obtain a booth at no cost. God works in mysterious and free ways.

While sitting there looking at the FamilySearch sign it occurred to me that maybe the sign was do for a update.

How about adding this, or something similar. I was thinking most at that place had no idea what FamilySearch meant, so a little more info might help.

Under FamilySearch logo.

"Where generations connect"

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Brett said: Nolan

I do not disagree that something is 'missing'/'needed' ...

But ...
That said ...

I still like the OLD Words that appeared, many years ago ... "Where Generations Meet".



And, would like them added BACK in.

Plus, I would love the 'Rider' of "Both, the Living; and, the Dead" appended to the OLD Words.

But, that is just me.

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W David Samuelsen said: Brett, that is very old logo.

The logo had been upgraded in a very big way reflecting the way FamilySearch is now.

Even the updated logo is now installed on Family History Library's outside walls in signs.

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Jeff Wiseman said: Yea, that is now a corporate logo. They are not easy (or cheap) to change.

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Brett said: W David

No kidding ...

I was referencing the OLD Words with an OLD Logo where they appear ...

I would prefer something like this ...



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W David Samuelsen said: There are several with the basic logo, and usage is dependent on how it is used.

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Brett said: W David

Nolan; and, I, are just saying that it would be great if the aforementioned "Words" could be added to the MAIN 'Logo', rather than just the 'Tree' and 'FamilySearch'.

And, of course, there would be instances where ONLY the 'Tree' and 'FamilySearch' appear, WITHOUT the "Words".

The NEW 'Top Line' Menu being one of the latter places where the "Words" need not appear (due, to saving space/'real estate').

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Nolan Bateman said: I had forgotten about the old FamilySearch logo with the tree in the center.
I was not proposing this change be added to everything. Just put on the banner where you would have a booth set up at a fair, or other public event. Maybe one could have a separate sign that is big enough to be seen that would interest those that do not know what FamilySearch means.

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Nolan Bateman said: I had forgotten about the old FamilySearch logo with the tree in the center.

I was not proposing this change be added to everything. Just put on the banner where you would have a booth set up at a fair, or other public event. Maybe one could have a separate sign that is big enough to be seen that would interest those that do not know what FamilySearch means.

Would it be okay to come up with a local additional sign if we ever do another fair type event?

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W David Samuelsen said: In this case, you need to get authorization from FamilySearch headquarters to do what you wanted to do.

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Brett said: Nolan

Good luck on that ...

I approached the "Family History Department" of the Church in my locale; as, the "Family History Centre" (FHC) was having a 'Booth' at a local "Fair" (so to speak); and, I enquired if we could have the use of a 'Drop Cloth' with the "FamilySearch" Logo and any other "Signage" - they advised that we could NOT. Even thought, the FHC, is a designated "FamilySearch" Centre, with a "Certificate of Licence".

I was advised that the use of the "FamilySearch" Logo and material was closely managed; and, that is was most unlikely that we would get permission to use any such "FamilySearch" Logo and material - go figure.

We even had the "Full Time" Missionaries 'teed up', ready to attend; and, be available to answers "Questions" in regard to the Church and doctrine; so that, those manning/staffing the 'Booth' did not have to get into any deep 'Doctrinal' discussions; but, concentrate on providing "Genealogy"/"Family History" information and help.

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Brett said: Nolan

Good luck on that ...

I approached the "Family History Department" of the Church in my locale; as, the "Family History Centre" (FHC) was having a 'Booth' at a local "Fair" (so to speak); and, I enquired if we could have the use of a 'Drop Cloth' with the "FamilySearch" Logo and any other "Signage" - they advised that we could NOT. Even thought, the FHC, is a designated "FamilySearch" Centre, with a "Certificate of Licence".

I was advised that the use of the "FamilySearch" Logo and material was closely managed; and, that is was most unlikely that we would get permission to use any such "FamilySearch" Logo and material - go figure.

We even had the "Full Time" Missionaries 'teed up', ready to attend; and, be available to answers "Questions" in regard to the Church and doctrine; so that, those manning/staffing the 'Booth' did not have to get into any deep 'Doctrinal' discussions; but, concentrate on providing "Genealogy"/"Family History" information and help.

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Tom Huber said: At one time, when a FHC was planning to have a booth at a local event, they could request banners, etc., from the Church's public relationship department. I don't know if the Church provides this or not, but I do know that there are large posters available for FHCs to use in their buildings (We have one in the hallway in our building and several in the FHC itself.

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Tom Huber said: The local FHC director should be able to obtain these.

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Brett said: Tom

It is not that easy when you are so far, far away from the 'big smoke' (ie. Church Headquarters).

The closest we have is the "Family History Department" of the Church (Head Office) in our locale.

We went to the 'Support' Office that contains "FamilySearch" 'Support' Missionaries, for some reason, they were reluctant to even let use the 'Drop Cloth' with the "FamilySearch" Logo and any other "Signage" they have and use - they did give use some material; but, unfortunately, that was very nondescript.

Times have changed; and, as "FamilySearch" is a (Corporate) Logo, maybe the use of such is now more strictly regulated.

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randystebbing said: Here's a link to BYU where some familysearch related posters and more can be purchased https://printandmail.byu.edu/familyse...

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Brett said: Randy

'Thank You' for that.

I had seen that before; but, I had never seen that "Table Throw" before - perhaps that is new. Good size: Front - 128" x 86" (325 cm x 218 cm)

And, it looks like that the use of the FamilySearch" (Corporate) Logo is not as restricted/regulated as we thought, after our experience.

But ...
That said ...

The only problem in this 'neck of the wood' (ie. "Down Under" - Australia) is the "Expense".

The "Customs Duties" alone make them prohibitive, not to mention the added "Shipping" costs for out this way.

I would hate to think the total cost to us, over this way, when that "Table Throw" is advertised as US$140.

As there is no longer any "Budget" for "Family History Centres", we have enough trouble getting "Paper" for "Printing" and "Photocopying" - that took over x2 Months.

Again, 'Thank You'

Brett

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Tom Huber said: The costs for the local center are covered by the local ward(s) in the building in which the center is housed. I'm not sure why Salt Lake would not supply your centre with the desired items without cost. I can understand the local reluctance as they are working within the limits Salt Lake set for them.

I would contact the Family History Department of the Church directly to see what they would suggest (and hopefully, it won't be to work with their local representative group).

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jacall said: This post/question started over a long weekend (President's Day) It is probably just now being seen by FamilySearch engineers. You questions needs a definitive answer. Booths at State or County fairs are a good tool for FamilySearch Family Tree, and all that is Family History.  There is much information, tools and plans available for your booth. 
Congratulations on reserving your booth for FREE - If you still have some "pull" with those in charge see if your booth is placed where there will be actual foot traffic. Good luck!! 

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Brett said: Tom

My local "Family History Centre" (FHC) is Stake FHC, costs are covered by the Stake. As previously advised; as, there is no longer any "Budget" for FHCs, we have enough trouble getting "Paper" for "Printing" and "Photocopying" - that took over x2 Months; and, you know those NEW "Hand-Out" Cards for "FamilySearch and FHCs that were posted here, not so long ago; well, we are still waiting for them to be ordered through Stake.

It was not SLC (Church Headquarters) that would not supply us with a 'Drop Cloth' with the "FamilySearch" Logo and any other such "Signage", it was the "FamilySearch" 'Support' Missionaries that work with "Family History Department" of the Church (Headquarters) in my locale, that would not - comes down to local interpretations; but, as I advised, they did supply some material that they had; but, unfortunately, that was very nondescript.

We, our idea, was that we were trying to, encourage; and, further the use of, both, "FamilySearch"; and, the FHC, with the General Public.

There was insufficient time to try to address the matter with/through SLC (Church Headquarters) - you know what (M) time is like.

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Brett said: jscall (CSM)

WHY did you "Change" (ie. "Covert") the 'Status' of this "Idea", to that of a "Question"; so that, this post NO LONGER appears in the MAINSTREAM "Community" List of "Recent Activity"!!!???

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Brett said: jscall (CSM)

WHY did you "Change" (ie. "Covert") the 'Status' of this "Idea", to that of a "Question"; so that, this post NO LONGER appears in the MAINSTREAM "Community" List of "Recent Activity"!!!???

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joe martel said: This is a great question and I like to see suggestions from others. 
Most companies spend considerable effort in brand and tag-lines. It involves marketing, corporate, and often historical aspects, and legal. (Take a look at the evolutions of brand of major corporations and products over time). They do change over time, just like the church's genealogy and family history services have. Changing brand can be costly, and sometimes disastrous. Likewise I believe the church is very careful to create the message and brand they wish to convey. They probably also must insure that the brand, if displayed, is done in the proper context and representation - with necessary approval. Volunteers are a great resource, but they too would probably need to be formalized.

I think the problem with tag-lines is it can be fleeting and very difficult to localize to other countries and cultures. So for today, the About page tries to portray more about the brand :https://www.familysearch.org/en/home/about

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Brett said: FamilySerach

Please "Change" (ie. "Covert") the 'Status' of this post BACK to that of an "Idea", rather than that of a "Question"; so that, this post AGAIN appears in the MAINSTREAM "Community" List of "Recent Activity".

'Thank You' in advance.

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