Re-doing Temple Ordinances when the DOB and DOD are wrong

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Jan Gonzales Glasscock said: Someone combined a relative of mine with another person with the same first and last names after the 1920 Census. Person A (my relative) and person B (the other person) show the correct parents and siblings. However, person B was given the DOB/DOD, spouse, and all information after 1920 that actually belong to my person A.

I have found the death certificates of both people, and they show that they are, indeed two separate people. I have documentation for both of their DOB/DOD, and spouses.

I have contacted the person who has reserved the ordinances for person B, using the information for my person A. Baptism and confirmation have already been done for person B using the incorrect DOB/DOD.

My question is: does person B need to have his baptism and confirmation re-done? Or is it enough to go in and correct his DOB/DOD?

I have tried to find a policy for this, but have not been able to. It's 9pm, so I can't contact anyone right now.

Thank you all so much for any help you can give.

Jan GG

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Jordi Kloosterboer said: It will be sorted out in the Millennium. However, if you want to really make sure the ordinances are done right now, un-merge and make sure everything is correct. You would just have to pay attention to the details, when certain changes happened and when ordinances happened.

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Robert Wren said: It sounds like you did some good research.

Create a case for FSSupport, category Temple, from the feedback link at the bottom of the PID, and explain the situation and they should be able to resolve it for you. (It may take a few weeks, but you should get a response in a couple days)

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Christine said: Did your person (A) already have his baptism and confirmation completed prior to the incorrect merge?

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Cindy Hecker said: If they were not merged, but are 2 people and one just had the wrong dates then it will be OK. Both people will get all the ordinances complete and they can sort any details out in heaven. The name is the same and relationships are the same so don't stress over the dates involved. (remember many people do not have all their dates some just have a marriage date) If the person was merged, then unmerge and set things straight.

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Tom Huber said: You've received several suggestions to "unmerge" the two people.

That may not be possible if changes were made after the merge, so what you do then is to go through the change log and find where the merge(s) took place.

Then take a look at the "deleted" person's record (you'll see the basic information, but not much more).

If the dates match your relative, then close out that "deleted" duplicate and move to the next merge, if any, and repeat the process.

What you may find is that someone did not merge two records with the wrong dates, but changed the date, thinking that the person was their relative. At that point, simply revert to the correct dates, document the sources, and everything is fine.

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Gordon Collett said: You say combined but say that they both have the correct parents.

Are they always been two separate people but it is just that person A has the right birth and death and spouse along with his right parents siblings but person B has the wrong birth and death and wrong spouse but does have the right parents and siblings?

If they were merged, had ordinances done, then were separated, then support has to help sort out who the ordinances were actually done for.

If they were never merged, the validity of individual ordinances depends on the totality of who we are. If his parents and siblings show that he is in the right family and that is who this other researcher thought he was and he just got some wrong information from the 1920 census, then I would think he can just correct the birth and death information, remove the incorrect spouse and other information from the 1920 census and the ordinances, since they were done for the correct person, would still be valid.

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Tom Huber said: I forgot to mention that if unmerge is not possible, then "restore" the duplicate with the wrong dates. Check the restored duplicate to see what the ordinance dates were (you can't see this when you look at the "deleted" record).

Do this until all the merged (incorrect) duplicates have been restored and then check the ordinance dates on your relative's record. If they are not what they were before the merges, contact support as advised by Robert, following his directions.

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Jan Gonzales Glasscock said: Thank you so much everyone, for your help/suggestions. Because the two were never merged, and only baptism/confirmation had been done for person B, I entered all the correct info for BOTH A and B and they are now in their correct families, along with their parents, spouses, and children. Person A will have all of his work done, and person B does not need to re-do ordinances B and C.

I love this work, and I love the research. Feels so good to get things all sorted, doesn't it?

Again, thank you all for your helpful answers

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Jan Gonzales Glasscock said: Thank you for your suggestion. That's basically what I ended up doing and all is well now