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Permission for ordinances beyond the 110 year mark

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January 18, 2020 edited September 28, 2020 in Suggest an Idea
Katie Lynn Wood said: When i find baptisms and confirmations available that are beyond 110 years, it says i need permission to request and perform the ordinances. I need permission from the closest living relative of that person... How do i find who that is so i can ask for permission?

Its a little frustrating to find so many ordinance opportunities when they all need permission by the closest living relative, but I don't know who that would be so they sit without being reserved and performed.

if anyone knows how to contact the closest living relative to get permission, please let me know.
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  • LegacyUser
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    January 17, 2020
    Amy Archibald said: You need to completely research the person so you can identify if their spouse, adult children, siblings, or parents are still living. As you research the person you will find sources that can help you identify who these individuals are. Then you can reach out to them - if any are living and develop a relationship with them. Obituaries are a great place to find information about who may be living at the time of the deceased's death. Then you can research to find out if those individuals are still living.
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    January 17, 2020
    Jeff Wiseman said: Katie,

    Twice in the original post, you used the term "beyond 110 year" as related to needing permissions to do ordinances. So the original question appears to have been talking about obtaining permission to do ordinances for someone who was born more than 110 years ago.

    If this is really the case, and attempts that you make to reserve and print a name for someone who was born MORE than 110 year years ago are being prevented by the system (thus forcing you to obtain permission from other living relatives), then SOMETHING IN THE SYSTEM IS BROKEN and needs to be fixed! This should not be happening if the person was born more than 110 years ago.
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  • LegacyUser
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    January 17, 2020
    Brett said: Katie

    Firstly, "Welcome" to this "FamilySearch" ( "GetStaisfaction" ) 'Feedback' Forum.

    Secondly, "Official 'FamilySearch' Representatives", do monitor; and, sometimes, participate in, this Forum.

    Thirdly, I am just another User/Patron, just like yourself (and, happen to be a Member of the Church).

    Many Users/Patrons who regularly participate in this Forum who have a great deal of knowledge and experience with "FamilySearch", like to assist/help other Users/Patrons like yourself, as evidenced by the responses by 'Amy' and 'Jeff'.

    Finally, if you want to, can you give the PIDs (Person Identification Numbers) of some of the individuals/persons you are having the problem/issue with, so we can try and ascertain what is happening - there may be other matters at play.

    I totally understand if you do not want to post the PIDs in this Forum.

    Here is an example of a situation where, most probably, the Spouse (in this case, a Husband), was Born over 110 Years ago; but, ALL the "Ordinances" (including "SS") for the Spouse/Husband is "Request (Permission Required)", despite the fact that the "Ordinances", excluding "SS", for the Wife, have been "Completed"; and, they DID NOT require permission.



    The situation in this case is that there are NO "Details" (eg. 'Dates') for the Spouse/Husband.

    In this situation, as 'Amy' has already indicated, MORE research is required for the Spouse/Husband; before, the "Permission Required" is removed.

    Brett

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  • LegacyUser
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    January 17, 2020
    JT said: Sometimes the "needs permission" message only applies to the sealing of the spouse, even though it appears above ALL individual ordinances. In that case, it may be the spouse that was born within the last 110 years. But if you still see check marks for the other ordinances, then you could go ahead with those, and leave the SS til later.
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    January 18, 2020
    Jeff Wiseman said: This is true, although the OP specifically mentioned only Baptisms and Confirmations.

    Up until recently anyway, if a person's Spouse had an incorrect age marked that made them too young to marry, the data error for this was raised on that person instead of where the error actually was. I think that they are in the process of correcting this.
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  • LegacyUser
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    January 18, 2020
    Tom Huber said: I have run into instances like Jon mentioned myself. The solution is to not attempt to reserve all the ordinances for the individual who was born more than 110 years ago, but only those the user wishes to perform or have performed.

    The advice from Amy still applies. There is also a possibility that there are other issues with the person for whom the reservation attempt is desired, but the 110-year rule overrode any notice of those issues.
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