Family Members are not indexed in the 1870 census for Longmeadow, Massachusetts

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Sandra Ellen Duffy said: UN: sandyduffy, HN: 6579A. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Waters PID: GQ9Q-66S. This person appears to be the only on of her family indexed in the 1870 census for Longmeadow, Hampden, Massachusetts. Please fix this.

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Alan E. Brown said: All the family members are indexed just fine. I searched for records for Willie Waters, b. 1866 in Massachussets and found his 1870 Census record right away. That proves that his record is indexed.

The problem is that they are not grouped into a single household. That lack of grouping makes it much harder to attach records to the whole family in the source linker. That same problem seems to affect most of that Census page -- only the first two couples (named Morgan and Cooke) are grouped into households. All the other people on that page are individuals with no household grouping.

I don't work on the records, so I have no idea how difficult that might be to fix.

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Brett said: Sandra

FYI

Here is the reason, from a post of Over 7 Years ago.

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Randy Hoffman (Employee) over 7 years ago

Perhaps you are referring to the fact that you cannot search for x, the son/daughter/spouse of y? If so, that is because relationship to head of house was not recorded in the 1870 census, and we do not make assumptions when indexing.

https://getsatisfaction.com/familysea...
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Here is a direct "Link" to that whole post:

Vast improvement needed in 1870 US Census presentation ... [ Over 7 Years ago ]
https://getsatisfaction.com/familysea...

I know that this does not help.

Brett

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Adrian Bruce said: Yes and no. Randy Hoffman's quote is correct - the raw 1870 census didn't capture the relationships between household members.

However, the raw 1870 census did capture who was in the household (where "household" is defined by a change of number in column 2). Hence it should be possible to list the members of each household. As Alan said above, on that page only the Morgan and Cooke (assumed) "families" are grouped into households. For instance:
Household Role Sex Age Birthplace
Orsen Morgan - Male 39 Ireland
Catherina Morgan - Female 40 Ireland

Sandra seems to be asking that all the households on that page are grouped as households, like the Morgan household. That should be possible - albeit, as Randy points out, there's no chance of indexing the relationships inside the household.

But what I don't know is whether that household info was indexed in the first place. Very strange that 2 such households were captured, while the rest???

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Tom Huber said: FamilySearch, as far as the U.S. 1850,1860, and 1870 census enumerations are concerned are inconsistent. All three enumerations group by household, not by family, and as such, do hot have relationship information. Starting with the 1880 enumeration, persons are grouped by families, or in some instances, institutions.

I don't remember, but one of the three (either 1860 or 1870) suggest possible relationships in the index, while the other two index each person individually.