Why do we spend millions and possibly billions for historical accuracy, to have it housed in an open
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Don M Thomas said: Why do we as a people, spend millions, if not possibly billions, in the preservation of historical records, to obtain the most accurate information on our ancestors, and then put it in a totally OPEN EDIT "wild west" database called the FamilySearch "Family Tree," to where anyone can change our ancestors records?
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ATP said: Don M Thomas,
The preservation of the historical records are thought of, say, as so many manufactured items of package goods. However, there is a huge difference in products, but treated as if the end use of both products is the same. Once a manufactured package of goods is consumed that is the end of it and cannot be passed on.
Not so with a knowledge based product, which cannot be consumed, only used over and over repeatedly, and should be treated as such, and, to be effectively utilized requires extensive experience in the use of any particular knowledge base product.
Otherwise it is "wild west"!
After almost 5 decades of working in 2 major commercial corporations, this is my observation of how management of systems changed into today's "wild west" of shifting responsibility for the results. FSFT is not alone!0 -
Don M Thomas said: I am not too smart, and can't understand your meaning. Could you say it again in laymen terminology. I only mentioned "wild west," in that there really is no end, in the "Family Tree" totally open edit database, as to how our research data could be change. (No law and order to protect in the preserving of the correctness of the research). Have read your reply over and over and kind of getting the meaning now.0
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ATP said: Don M Thomas,
Am still not sure if my rewording was more easily understood. I apologize for not being so very clear. I find myself thinking in "corporate speak" more than I would like, but, since language meaning and the huge decline in vocabulary over that same time, it is not easy to know how to express, or even if, some such idea should be expressed in any general sense. It has nothing to do with being smart!
FSFT is the result of the same system of management change over the same period of time as I observed it and participated in various extents of management. And, until, and unless, the mindset and foundation as currently exists is changed to implement genealogical "best practices" (there I go, again!) there will be no end to the "wild west" order of things.
I don't mean that as a downer, which it is, but, as a reminder of the need to preserve in hard copy format as an accurate record as we can presently conscientiously do so as to pass on as Lehi did to Nephi and on down through the generations in the possible instance where the grid is lost and there is no power and none work can be done. This last paragraph was a topic of discussion in our home sacrament meeting, today.0 -
Don M Thomas said: Interesting ATP, and thanks for your clarification. You are a lot smarter than I am.0
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ATP said: Don M Thomas,
Not smarter... probably just a difference in our various life experience.0 -
Don M Thomas said: I got the idea for this "Feedback" from this sister. This sister has a legitimate complaint. Follow the thread: https://getsatisfaction.com/familysea...
With the open edit "wild west" design of the FamilySearch "Family Tree" (Anyone) can change (Shes) family data at any time.
WHO GETS TO CONTROL HER FAMILY DATA, (SHE), OR (ANYONE) OR THE (GROUP)?
It would seem to me that (Anyone) has more control over (Shes) family data than (She) does, because (Anyone) can change (Shes) data at any time with the way the open edit "wild west" style "Family Tree" database works today.
Who would know more about her family data, (She), or (Anyone)?
It would seem to me that (She) knows more about her family data than (Anyone), but (She) seems to have less control over her family data than (Anyone) because (Anyone) can change (Shes) data at any time.
Just because (Anyone) might be a (Group) of people, does that mean the (Group) should control?
(She) still knows more about her family data, and (She) did enter the data into the "Family Tree."
The (Group) gets to control though because there are more of them than (She), and the (Group) like (Anyone) can change (Shes) data at any time. A (Group) means more hands to change the data at any time in an open edit database.
What if (She) is wrong about her family data, who should control her family data then, (She), (Anyone) or the (Group)? Proof would be in play, but it still is her family, and (She) entered the family data into the "Family Tree."
What if there is a life time dispute between (She) and (Anyone) and the (Group), who should control her family data then?
If (She) is the last to die, then the data would be controlled by (She), and showing how (She) wants the data to appear in the open edit "wild west" style "Family Tree" database. It would be controlled by (She) until (Anyone) or the (Group) comes along again, (after (Shes) death), and changes the data at that time.
If (She) dies first, then (Anyone) would control the data and have the data appear as (Anyone), or the (Group), wants the data to appear in the open edit "wild west" style "Family Tree" database.
But (She) entered the data into the "Family Tree," and it is her family.
The Open Edit "wild west" style of the "Family Tree" database means (Anyone) can change the data, at anytime (Anyone) wants, and leaves it in (Anyone) or the (Group) control, and will appear in the open edit "wild west" style "Family Tree" database as (Anyone) or the (Group) wants it to appear, even if it does not match documentation.0
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