Why is the reason statement for merging two people showing up as the reason statement for the marria

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Janeen Lambert said: This is a new problem I have found in the last week or so. Here is an example:

I merged Sarah Potter 9ZH7-WWD with another Sarah Potter. Since they were both the spouse of Robert Foote LCMX-KC9 and had the same children, I gave the reason for the merge "Same spouse and children." Now this statement shows up as the reason statement for the marriage date and place of Robert and Sarah. It makes no sense there. How did it get there anyway?

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Paul said: I raised a similar issue about the reason statement when adding a source (e.g. census record) then appearing against the birth. The statement made absolutely no sense when read as a reason for adding the birth - which, of course, it was not.

Hopefully both similar issues can be addressed here by an FS employee.

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joe martel said: They are different Reasons and I would suppose the contributor provided similar Reason text but through two distinct actions, one the Merge, the other the Marriage.


Marriage Reason:

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Janeen Lambert said: Joe. I am the one who did the merge. I provided the reason statement for the merge. I did not add the marriage information; it was already there. After the merge, I went to update the marriage information and saw that my reason statement was there.

This only happens when I move the marriage information from right to left, which means I am now the contributor of the information. That I understand.I do not see why the reason statement from the merge is automatically added to the marriage. The program is doing this and I think it is a glitch. It is really annoying to have to go in and take out the reason statement after the program puts it there where it makes no sense.

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joe martel said: Janeen, the Merge Reason says "They have the same children" which is different than the Marriage event Reason which is "Same spouse and children". When you do a Merge and move the relationship from right to left, the entire Relationship object is kept intact, it's Source, events and Reason statements. I'm guessing that Reason on the marriage event was there prior to the Merge.

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Paul said: Joe

Without wishing to "hijack" Janeen's issue, I believe the point I raise is also a programming problem - why should a reason statement made when adding a source (say a census record) then populate the BIRTH field on the person page? The remark reads as complete nonsense when it gets carried over as a reason for the birth detail.

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joe martel said: Paul, can you create a new thread? I don't understand your point and a PID and example will help illustrate your issue. Thanks

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Paul said: Joe

Please see https://getsatisfaction.com/familysea...

Thanks

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Janeen Lambert said: No. This has happened to me over and over: There is not a reason statement for the marriage. I merge two people and move the marriage from right to left. Now the reason statement for the merge shows up as the reason for the marriage.

I think the screen shot you took was after I did more merges. Honestly, right before "Same spouse and children" showed up as the marriage justification, I had just typed it as the merge justification.

I tried again with John Dickinson LZGV-365. I checked and there were no reason statements for the marriages. I merged him with John Dickinson MX34-DHK. I gave the reason "They have the same name, the same birth and death information, the same parents and the same spouse." Now this is showing up as the reason statement for the marriage of John Dickinson LZGV-365 and Frances Foote 94W5-PQB.

This has been happening over and over for about a week. It is driving me nuts.

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Gordon Collett said: Just want to confirm that what Janeen is describing is something that is happening to others as well.

Here is the setup for a merge. As you can see the marriage information being merged in does not have a reason statement:



Move over information and add the reason for the merge:



Complete the merge then look at the information on the marriage that was brought over in the merge and there is the reason for the merge:

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Gordon Collett said: There is also one other place the reason for merging is recorded. It is put as a reason statement for the child to parent relationship.



I did not enter the reason statements here. I typed it in while doing a merge.

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joe martel said: uggh. thanks for finding this bug. the teams are looking into this.

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Janeen Lambert said: Here is another place that reason statements are showing up where they were not put in by the user. I having been looking at change logs a lot and keep seeing "Not a Match" and then a reason that proves they are a match. I thought some people are just confused or careless. Then I saw my name on several not matches with reasons they were matches! Am I confused and careless or is there a giant bug in the program?

Here is my latest example:

I looked at the change log for Robert Foote MX35-CW8. The top entry is "Not A Match" by jplambert - that's me. The reason is "Same name and same spouse". Excuse me? Isn't that a reason to declare two people a match? When I look at Possible Matches > Not a Match for this person, the only Not a Match was put in by Stockholm - that's not me. So I did not declare not a match but the change log says I did and a reason statement there from one of the times I said two people were a match.

colette delimont

I am glad to see that all of you have clarified to the team what the issue is. I was so frustrated with this. It makes the sources so cumbersome.