I am unable to create a new baptism record group and to keep the new people

gusbemacbe

Hello!

I removed a group of my grandaunt from the baptism record due to the misalignment and disorder, to create a new and clean group. But I was unable to generate a group with a white border, whereas I was able to add the new people. The issue is that when you refresh the page, these new people will disappear.

Here's my grandaunt Maria's baptism record link: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-6FH9-KMR?view=index&action=view. You will notice that there is no group with a white border or highlighted people for Maria.

If you visit the link https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-6FH9-KMR without the address suffix ?view=index&action=view, you will notice that there is a group with a blue border, and you will be able to attach them.

But when you attach, firstly, you need to edit the people's names to improve the names, for example, missing accents or diacritics and make the Portuguese prepositions lowercase (“da”, “de” and “do”). I need to exclude “P.” and “José Espindola Bittencount” from my grandaunt's baptism record.

Here are people's links:

• Baptism record:
  • My grandaunt: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:6DLT-BYGM
  • My great-grandfather: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:6DLT-BYG9
  • My great-grandmother: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:6DLT-BYGS
  • Her godfather: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:6DLT-BYG3
  • Her godmother: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:6DLT-BYGQ
• Profiles:
  • My great-grandfather: https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/GR67-N42
  • My great-grandmother: https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/LVSN-4N8

Cc: @Áine Ní Donnghaile

Thank you for your attention, understanding, patience and help!

Julia Szent-Györgyi

I haven't ever worked with this kind of computer-indexed record, but in my experience, the "Add" function on the index editor doesn't work: as you described, updating the page (or coming back to it from elsewhere) deletes your additions (or makes them disappear, which comes to the same thing).

The index editor has multiple flaws or bugs, including an unpredictable gremlin that sometimes removes viewing permissions on an entry, instead of the intended edit. It is my opinion, therefore, that we should behave as if it were still 2014, and indexes on FamilySearch were not editable. As we used to reassure ourselves often back then, the index has served its purpose, despite the errors: you found the record.

Given that you've identified the index entries for everyone involved in the baptism, you can go ahead and attach those entries to the relevant Family Tree profiles, using Source Linker. You can note any corrections in the Notes/Description fields of the resulting sources, and you can dismiss the "unfinished attachments" notices to effectively get rid of "P." and "José Espindola Bittencount". (They'll still be there on the index detail pages, but as I said, you can make a comment about that in each source.)

Alternatively (or additionally), you can attach the image directly as your source, bypassing the faulty index entirely. Since there are index entries associated with the image, you'll either need to use your source box, or you'll need to start from the new viewer (and editor). (Both viewers have an "Attach To [Family] Tree" button, but on the old one, it's unfortunately disabled if there are any index entries associated with the image.) Note that the source created this way is a completely different beast from the index-entry-based sources that Source Linker creates. Source Linker's sources are intended to be unique to a single person in the index, while the image viewers' buttons create a single source that applies equally to everyone mentioned in the record.

Áine Ní Donnghaile

Sorry @gusbemacbe, but why did you tag me?

gusbemacbe

Good evening, @Áine Ní Donnghaile!

Because I saw you were speaking in Portuguese on another topic about the marriage record. I think you could address the problems with the records written in Portuguese.

Áine Ní Donnghaile

Agree absolutely with Julia. I'm not editing ANYTHING until/if the editor is improved. It doesn't matter if the record is in English, Portuguese, or Klingon.

Ashlee C.

@gusbemacbe Mod note: Your post was edited to remove a name that is not part of your username.
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