Unable to Change Source Title

Paul W · January 13

Sorry for the late response to your post of 2 January, but I have been concentrating on working on Family Tree - and in correcting titles affected by this dreadful FamilySearch exercise in fiddling with the way source titles are / used to be displayed. I continue to be amazed that the complaints about this - and the associated difficulties in reverting to the original source titles - continue to be so low.

So, yes, I am very appreciative of your "workaround" for making our amended titles stick - i.e., don't use the exact same wording that has been withdrawn (e.g. substituting,"..in entry of.." instead of "..in entry for.." works just fine.

Still doesn't solve the problem of being able to find time to amend the huge amount of source titles (so far) affected. It's now become easy to see how many of my relatives had a child in their year of marriage, or the amount of mothers who died in the same year a child was buried! For years "in between" Vitals (BMD) events you can soon work out the sources applied to the children and not their parents, but when I now find two sources, dated say 1806, with just "Mary Brown" in the source title, I have to open both to see which related to her 1806 marriage and which to the 1806 baptism of her first child! (Then the work of amending the titles - one to "Mary Brown in the record of Jane Brown" and, while I'm at it, amending the other to "Mary Brown Marriage".)

However, as I suggest, unless other users come here and complain this issue is affecting them as badly as it is affecting me, I guess the engineers will not see fixing the whole mess is a priority. (I believe a reversal of the "code" that changed the titles - causing the dropping altogether the "in entry for" bit - is probably the only way forward.

If only the engineers would communicate with us about their intentions. If I knew this is going to be put right shortly, I would hold back on the time being spent in retitling (potentially) thousands of source titles, which are currently quite meaningless, in respect of their precise subject matter.

Leroy Roberts · January 17

I'm seeing a lot of sources for a person that actually belongs to another family member. When I try adding "in entry for" and the persons name, over 50% of the time it doesn't work (the name is too long), it reverts back to the original title. If it doesn't work, I found that if I shorten the person name it will work and then I go back and add the complete name on a second edit. Please change the program to accept any length of a name after the "in entry for".

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Example:

I had to change the source title from:

Sarah Hammond, "Massachusetts, Town Clerk, Vital and Town Rocords, 1626-2001"

To:

Sarah Hammond in entry for Martha H. Hammond "Massachusetts, Town Clerk, Vital and Town Rocords, 1626-2001"

In the screen shot above, Sarah Hammond's maiden name is Sarah E. Huston (229S-1DS)

Gilbert L Rist (LRR6-86Z) is married to Martha H. Hammond (K234-NML)

Julia Szent-Györgyi · January 18

@Leroy Roberts, it looks like a mod appended your post to one of the existing threads on the topic. You can read the thread to get some more detail, but the short version is: it's not that the name's too long, it's that the auto-titler is delusional. When you add "in entry for", it thinks that's what was there already, so it doesn't save. Shortening the name and then adding it back in a subsequent edit works because entering a title that doesn't match the auto-titler's templates turns off the auto-titler.

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