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fabiomachado4
fabiomachado4 ✭
January 13, 2023 edited July 27, 2024 in Search

Follow the attached image i dont know if the word "Calgolajo" its a name or surname, and both do not exist.

Below is "Camei, Fortunata" its OK, Benedetto too. But "Calgolajo"...can someone help me?


Its italian name.


Thanks

Fabio Machado

benedetto.jpeg


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  • Áine Ní Donnghaile
    Áine Ní Donnghaile ✭✭✭✭✭
    January 13, 2023 Answer ✓

    It's always better to give us the link to the batch instead of a small clip, please.

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  • Maile L
    Maile L ✭✭✭✭✭
    January 13, 2023 Answer ✓

    @fabiomachado4

    Groups are a great place to get help with things like this. You may want to join Italy Genealogy Research

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  • Áine Ní Donnghaile
    Áine Ní Donnghaile ✭✭✭✭✭
    January 13, 2023 Answer ✓

    I believe the word is calzalajo, meaning shoemaker.

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  • fabiomachado4
    fabiomachado4 ✭
    January 13, 2023 edited January 13, 2023

    Ok, sorry.

    The name is Attilio Iocchi


    Here is the full content: https://antenati.cultura.gov.it/ark:/12657/an_ud19674645/

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  • Cousin Vinny
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    January 14, 2023 edited January 14, 2023

    This looks like a marriage or death record. In Italian records, it is understood that the child shares the surname of the father, so if a child's surname listed (e.g. as the bride/groom in a marriage record), then the father's surname will not generally be listed as it is understood it will be the same as the child's. The same is true on a death record.

    Also, the word here is "calzolaio". The letter that looks like a "j" is called the "long i" in Italian orthography and is found in older records in certain vowel combinations, especially when the i is sandwiched between two other vowels. So you see "calzolajo" but it's actually calzolaio.

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  • fabiomachado4
    fabiomachado4 ✭
    January 15, 2023
    https://community.familysearch.org/en/discussion/comment/489106#Comment_489106

    thank you my friend

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  • fabiomachado4
    fabiomachado4 ✭
    January 15, 2023 edited January 15, 2023
    https://community.familysearch.org/en/discussion/comment/488901#Comment_488901

    Thanks, but in that case is a surname or the ocupation?

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  • Cousin Vinny
    Cousin Vinny ✭✭✭✭
    January 16, 2023
    https://community.familysearch.org/en/discussion/comment/489126#Comment_489126

    Occupation. The surname would be Iocchi, same as the child.

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  • Cousin Vinny
    Cousin Vinny ✭✭✭✭
    January 16, 2023 edited January 16, 2023

    Attilio's birth is listed in the 1879 index:

    image.png

    https://antenati.cultura.gov.it/ark:/12657/an_ua19755940/0MdjAkv

    But unfortunately the book with this birth record (n. 1-597, Vol. 1, Parte 1, Serie C) is not available online.

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  • fabiomachado4
    fabiomachado4 ✭
    January 16, 2023
    https://community.familysearch.org/en/discussion/comment/489351#Comment_489351

    In this case i need to contact the church for the full record?

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  • Cousin Vinny
    Cousin Vinny ✭✭✭✭
    January 18, 2023
    https://community.familysearch.org/en/discussion/comment/489352#Comment_489352

    These are civil records, you would have to contact the City of Rome Stato Civile to request the record:

    https://www.comune.roma.it/web/it/scheda-servizi.page?contentId=INF138464&stem=stato_civile

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