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jonathangray1
jonathangray1 ✭
March 16, 2022 in General Questions

Hi. I get record hints telling me to review and attach things which are already attached. What can I do about this?

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  • Carla Tobler
    Carla Tobler mod
    March 16, 2022

    @jonathangray1

    Here is an article from the Help Center regarding duplicate record hints that will help answer your question.

    https://www.familysearch.org/en/help/helpcenter/article/what-do-i-do-with-duplicate-record-hints-in-family-tree

    This is information from that article:

    Please attach all record hints, even if they appear to be duplicates for the same individual. Do not mark them as "Not a Match."

    If you look at each hint carefully, you usually discover differences.

    What to do about duplicate record hints

    Look at the URL of each record hint. Each one should have a different and unique URL.

    • If the apparent duplicate has a unique URL but is not about the person, mark it as Not a Match.
    • If the apparent duplicate has a unique URL and is about the person, click Review and Attach as usual. Be aware that when you dismiss apparent duplicates, it can prevent the hinting system from finding record hints for the person in the future.
    • If the apparent duplicate has the same URL as another record hint, please contact FamilySearch Support.

    We hope this helps.

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  • jonathangray1
    jonathangray1 ✭
    March 30, 2022

    This is a problem when looking at things to review and attach and they are already attached. The only option seems to be to detach them, which I don't want to do.

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  • Brett .
    Brett . ✭✭✭✭✭
    March 30, 2022

    @jonathangray1

    Jonathan

    It's 'Brett'.

    I responded, in you previous, ( FIRST ) post, in this Forum, on the same matter, back on 25 October LAST Year.

    Here is that post ...

    FamilySearch Help

    'Category' = General Questions

    HOME > FAMILYSEARCH HELP > GENERAL QUESTIONS

    Review and attach research hints

    https://community.familysearch.org/en/discussion/106888/review-and-attach-research-hints

    https://community.familysearch.org/en/discussion/106888/review-and-attach-research-hints

    Following on, from that previous post; and, in response to this post ...

    IF, the "System" indicates, that a "Record Hint" (ie. a "Source"), which DOES apply, NEEDS to be "Attached", to an individual/person; THEN, one can just about GUARANTEE, that particular "Source" is NOT attached, to the individual/person - ie. It DOES NOT have the "Same" URL; as, any OTHER "Source" attached to the individual/person.

    ie. The "Record Hint" (ie. a "Source") is NOT a "Duplicate".

    Whereas ...

    Of course ...

    Such "Record Hint" (ie. a "Source"), MAY, in fact, be ANOTHER "Indexing", of the SAME "Event".

    But ...

    That Said ...

    That DOES NOT, make the "Record Hint" (ie. a "Source"), an EXACT "Duplicate", of a "Source" ALREADY attached.

    And ...

    As Such ...

    The "Record Hint" (ie. a "Source") SHOULD, most DEFINTELY, be attached.

    Furthermore ...

    There are MANY occasions, when a "Source", is simply ANOTHER "Indexing", of the SAME Event.

    In such cases, they are NOT "Duplicates".

    IF, "Sources", have "Different" URLs; THEN, they are NOT "Duplicates" ...

    Unfortunately ...

    It is a common misconception, that "Sources", are "Duplicates"; when, in fact they are NOT.

    Plus ...

    In just about, every case ...

    They are simply DIFFERENT "Indexing", of the SAME "Event"; and, SHOULD be attached.

    Too many User/Patrons, DO NOT understand, that there can be a number of "Indexing", for the SAME "Event".

    Sometimes:

    ▬ There is a "Re-Indexing" of a "Event", at a LATER date; where, MORE "Data" has been "Indexed"

    .... [ BOTH, "Indexing" are valid; and, SHOULD be RETAINED ... ]

    .... [ As, many of the EARLIER "Indexing" (ie."Sources) have ALREADY been attached to individuals/persons ... ]

    OR ...

    ▬ Different "Organisations" (eg. FamilySearch; Ancestry; FindMyPast; etc) often "Index" the SAME "Event".

    Thus, we have MULTIPLE "Indexes" (ie. "Sources"), of the SAME "Event.

    And ...

    They SHOULD "All" be attached ...

    Plus ...

    I have NEVER had (well, not that I can ever recall), "Record Hints", that are attached (or, for that matter "Dismissed") appear AGAIN.

    UNLESS, of course, those particular "Sources", that WHERE previously attached, HAVE subsequently been "Detached" by, oneself; or, ANOTHER User/patron ... that is another matter ... where, they WILL "Reappear" ...

    As far as I am aware ...

    Such will ONLY generally "Reappear", if those "Sources", were NOT attached; or, "Ignored".

    [ or, have subsequently been "Detached" ... ]

    Just my thoughts.

    Brett

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  • jonathangray1
    jonathangray1 ✭
    March 31, 2022 edited March 31, 2022

    Hi Brett

    Thank you - I am still struggling to understand what you mean.

    I am attaching 3 screenshots to show you what I see.

    The first is where it tells me that there are unfinished attachments to review.

    The second 2 are what I see when I click the link (this from the first on that page) - it seems that the only option is to 'detach' which doesn't seem right. I don't know about the information on screenshot 3.

    Thanks - I appreciate your help!

    Jonathan

    SCREENSHOT 1.jpg
    SCREENSHOT 2.jpg
    SCREENSHOT 3.jpg


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  • Julia Szent-Györgyi
    Julia Szent-Györgyi ✭✭✭✭✭
    March 31, 2022 edited March 31, 2022

    @jonathangray1, the still-white boxes on the left in your last screenshot are the unattached index entries that the sources tab is alerting you to.

    I don't know the source of this basically gibberish in the index, but it's shown in the source citation, too:

    image.png

    The best you can do is to dismiss the "unfinished" message: you're unlikely to find the servant to attach his entry to, and the rest is junk. Hopefully the index will eventually get fixed to remove it.

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  • jonathangray1
    jonathangray1 ✭
    April 2, 2022

    Thank you.

    That seems to be the case in some of the situations I have noticed - that there are people attached to the person or family who are not related, but were perhaps living in the same household when the census was taken. Not sure what to do about that.

    Thanks again.

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  • Brett .
    Brett . ✭✭✭✭✭
    April 2, 2022

    @jonathangray1

    Jonathan

    It's 'Brett'.

    I am sorry, I missed your response ...

    Belatedly ...

    Hm ...

    That puts, a totally different, complexion, on things ...

    Technically, you are specifically referring, to "Unfinished Attachments", rather than "Record Hints" 'per se'.

    Those "Unfinished Attachments", on "Sources", in the "Sources" 'Tab', of an individual's/person's, CAN simply be "Dismissed", if one wants, they DO NOT, have to be "Attached", if one DOES NOT - in fact, I would NOT.

    The choice is yours.

    And, in relation, to those particular "Screenshots" ...

    In regard to, the "Servant"; and, ALL those "Not Known(s)" (ie. N.K.), one would SIMPLY "Dismiss" the "Unfinished Attachments", on "Sources", in the "Sources" 'Tab', for ALL Family members.

    There is NO need, to "Create", a "Record' for, the "Servant"; and, ALL those "Not Known(s)" (ie. N.K.).

    Plus ...

    As, you HAVE already, "Attached" the "Source", to ALL the relevant Family members, the "Source", will NOT return/reappear; as, "Record Hint", for the Family members, just because, you "Dismissed", the "Unfinished Attachments" for, the "Servant"; and, ALL those "Not Known(s)" (ie. N.K.).

    That "Unfinished Attachments", is is a different matter, than just simple "Record Hints".

    I hope, that this may help/assist, somewhat.

    Brett

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  • jonathangray1
    jonathangray1 ✭
    April 5, 2022

    Thanks Brett


    I was concerned about the source disappearing if dismissed, but it seems it will not, so that's good!


    Jonathan

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  • Brett .
    Brett . ✭✭✭✭✭
    April 5, 2022

    😀

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