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TimDehnert
TimDehnert ✭
November 6, 2021 edited November 23, 2021 in FamilySearch Account

When I create a source/reference then I am able to set a date.

When I leave it empty... How can I set the date later via web site? In App it is possible, but I loose all pdf attachments.

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  • Date of reference
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  • Brett .
    Brett . ✭✭✭✭✭
    November 6, 2021

    @TimDehnert

    Tim

    Welcome to the "Community.FamilySearch" Forum.

    I am just another 'lowly' User/Patron ...

    Providing you are referencing, "Family Tree", of 'FamilySearch' ...

    I am a little confused ...

    ▬ You start of by referencing, a "Source"; and, 'Set' a 'Date'.

    ▬ Then, you reference the "Web" Site; and, "Mobile" Application, finishing off with PDF (attachments).

    Question: Are you referring to, adding a "Memory"; as, a "Source"?

    And, further, is it, the 'Date', on the 'Left-Hand-Side/Column", of the "Sources" 'Tab", to which you refer?

    Can you please clarify what you are trying to do.

    [ And ... Are you working between, the "Mobile" Application"; and, the Computer (Web), versions? ]

    Please advise.

    Brett

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  • TimDehnert
    TimDehnert ✭
    November 6, 2021

    Hi Brett,

    thanks for your fast reply.

    Well, I use the webiste to 90%, sometimes I use the mobile android app. It depends If i'm at home or meet my grandfather....

    When I create a source on the website I have the following page:

    image.png

    There is no "date" field.

    If I edit an existing source from by "source box" I still have not date.

    I found out that I have the date only when I opening a person and add/edit a source from there.

    image.png

    Why is it not possible the define the date directly on the date? I think the date is more fixed to the source than to the relationship between person and source. It is a little bit confusing to me.


    Concerning the app issue:

    In the app it is higlighted, that a date for a source is missing (in German: Datum hinzufügen/Add Date):

    image.png

    When I do this (adding the date) directly in the app: I get this page:

    image.png

    The Source has an attachment of type PDF and is not displayable in the app. When I fill out the date and click the save button...the date is stored on your servers (fine :-) ) but the attachment is removed, because the app can't display pdfs and clear the attachment.

    Tim

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  • Brett .
    Brett . ✭✭✭✭✭
    November 6, 2021

    @TimDehnert

    Tim

    Now, that is better, I am not so confused ...

    'Yes', I really ONLY use the "Mobile" Application for 'show and tell', certainly NOT for any REAL work ...

    "Mobile" Application, certainly 'came in 'handy', when we were travelling the World, in contact with others ...

    Short Answer: 'Yes', NO such 'Date' Field, when Attaching/Creating a "Source" - by 'Design', I suggest.

    That 'Date' Field, ONLY relates, to being able, to "Sort" the "Sources", in the "sources' 'Tab', of an individual/person. Specifically, for the "Chronological" Order; but, such can also help with sorting "Sources" for the "Custom" Order.

    I am certainly NOT familiar with doing such in the "Mobile" Application ...

    I just had to familiarise myself ... as, I do not "Read" German, I had to look at one on my "Mobile" Phone

    I got to, that last "Image", of yours.

    I understand, what you are saying, that the "Mobile" Application CANNOT display a PDF ...

    [ As, I get that "Image Not Available" ... ]

    Now ...

    That Said ...

    Question: Are you say that when you ADD that "Even Date", that the "Memory" (ie. in your case, PDF) EITHER:

    ▬ the "Source" (ie. in this case, as a "Memory") disappears, from the "Sources" 'Tab', altogether?; OR,

    ▬ the "Memory" (ie. in your case, PDF) disappears, from the Memories" 'Tab', altogether?, OR,

    ▬ Worse, BOTH?

    I just DO NOT want, to try it, on the one, I am looking at (on my "Mobile" Phone).

    I am NOT game, to do too much experimenting, with the "Mobile" Application.

    Brett

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  • dontiknowyou
    dontiknowyou ✭✭✭✭✭
    November 9, 2021

    @TimDehnert this bugs me too and I agree it would be good to be able to set the record date in the Source Box and Source Linker. So often a historical record gets attached without its date, and then the same date has to be set separately in the source lists on every single profile attached to it.

    The reason for this may be just that FT added dates to the source list only a couple years ago, and the push for the feature came from the user experience with the source list. In the source list at first there was just the option to manually sort sources into some kind of order. I sorted them by date. Then came the option to add something to help sort the sources, and there was immediate general agreement that sources should be sorted by date. Finally, records began to be attached with dates. Could it be that records indexed early do not have dates on them?

    A possible next step would be to enable setting the record date in the Source Box and Source Linker. That sounds like an Idea.

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  • dontiknowyou
    dontiknowyou ✭✭✭✭✭
    November 9, 2021

    An Idea (feature request): https://community.familysearch.org/en/discussion/83961/date-the-source-entry-from-source-box-vs-source-entry-to-the-tree

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  • Miss Jessie
    Miss Jessie ✭✭✭
    November 9, 2021

    Source Box feature was updated yesterday. It has new functionality.

    One feat is the ability to sort by sources without a date. You can then edit to add the date within the source box.

    It is also now possible to add a memory source to a living person using the source box.

    See this blog article

    https://www.familysearch.org/en/blog/familysearch-updates-enhance-your-experience


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  • dontiknowyou
    dontiknowyou ✭✭✭✭✭
    November 9, 2021

    Source Box feature was updated yesterday. It has new functionality.

    Yes! Is the Source Linker getting a similar update? It has been so unstable lately.

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