MyHeritage Tree Import
I recently uploaded a large tree I had on MyHeritage. When I go to view it, Family Tree shows all the individuals and potential matches, add to Family Tree, Already in Family Tree, etc.
My tree import shows 2407 names that can be added to FamilySearch. Yet when I click on a name, it will give me only an option to add it and then it creates a new individual ID number for that person in FamilySearch. That's fine for people not in the FamilySearch tree. I thought I'd cross check them and found that that person already does exist in FamilySearch, but it doesn't show it in the FamilySerach "already in Family Tree" drop down list. There's no option to compare the names in both trees and keep what already exists in FamilySearch, then delete it from the GEDCOM import list. Some of the differences I notices is in slight name changes, birth dates, etc. So it seems to me that there should be a possible duplicates list after doing an import.
Wondering if any one else has this problem and what the solution might be if there is one. Otherwise I'll have to open 2 screens and search/compare each indivdual one by one, but still can't delete the name from the "Already in Family Tree" list....
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Using the FamilySearch Genealogies and GEDCOM files, there are very important steps and processes to follow to have the system work in the best ways. Please review the information within this link, including the Related Articles near the bottom of the linked article, then please let us know if you still have challenges or issues with the GEDCOM file system:
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Thank you for the information, it was very helpful.....
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Jonathan
I am just another 'lowly' User/Patron ...
Ah ... the "Dreaded" ... GEDCOM File ... "GEDCOM Data" ... a 'scourge' of "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' ...
As an aside ...
And, apart from your recent experience ...
Hence, another reason that ...
Like MANY,I really wish 'FamilySearch' would ...
Just STOP allowing the "Upload" of GEDCOM Files into "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' altogether ...
There is just NO need, to "Upload" of GEDCOM Files, into "Family Tree", of 'FamilySearch', under ANY circumstance, even if one's "Ancestral" Lines are NOT already, in "Family Tree", of 'FamilySearch'.
As I always 'say', to User/Patrons, who mention the "Upload" of GEDCOM Files, into "Family Tree", of 'FamilySearch' ...
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You can; but ...
Please DO NOT Upload a GEDCOM File into "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch'.
Upload the GEDCOM Files in the "Genealogies" Part of 'FamilySearch', that is fine; but, please NOT into "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch'.
Some of the reasons that Users/Patrons (like myself) DO NOT want the ability to upload a GEDCOM File into "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' are:
(1) It is most likely that individuals/persons in a GEDCOM File are ALREADY in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch'; and, most Users/Patrons DO NOT even take the time to look to see if any one in their GEDCOM File is already in "Family Tree", in some instances, negating the need to even upload the GEDCOM File.
(2) There has been (many) cases where Users/Patrons, using the "Compare" process (of the upload) have "Dismissed" a "Possible" Match with an individual/person already in "Family Tree"; so that, their "Record", from their GEDCOM File, is loaded into "Family Tree", regardless; just so that, their "Record" appears in "Family Tree" (and, in some instances, for Members of the Church, so they can do the "Temple" Work, despite the fact that the "Temple" Work is ALREADY done with the "Possible" Match with the individual/person already in "Family Tree").
(3) Even with the "Compare" process (of the upload), there has been (many) cases where Users/Patrons have uploaded THEIR version of an individual/person in their GEDCOM File, on top of (ie. Over) an individual/person ALREADY in "Family Tree" of "FamilySearch" that has been there for MANY years and is well documented and "Sources" - in many instances obliterating all of the documentation and "Sources".
(4) If an individual/person is ALREADY in "Family Tree" of "FamilySearch", there is NO need to up uploaded one's version of an individual/person from one's own GEDCOM File - just take note of the the 'FamilySearch Person Identifier' (PID) of the individual/person that is ALREADY in "Family Tree"; and, one can go back later to ensure what information/detail is recorded and attached for that individual/person. Just DO NOT uploaded one's version of an individual/person in their GEDCOM File, on top of (ie. Over) an individual/person ALREADY in "Family Tree" - obliterating all of the documentation and "Sources" ALREADY in place/on record.
(5) The "Hours" (sometimes "Days"; or, even, "Weekes") of work, by other Users/Patrons, that can be needed to CORRECT the DAMAGE done by the upload of a GEDCOM File can be disheartening.
I am sorry ... 'off my soap box' ...
Enter (ie. 'Create') the individuals/persons in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' one at a time - on a one by one basis.
Many of the individuals/persons in a GEDCOM File, most probably, ALREADY exist in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch'.
Only one or two generations of the "Living" individuals/persons; and, perhaps, maybe, only one or two generations of the "Deceased" individuals/persons, may be required to be entered/input into "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch"; BEFORE, some of the "Deceased" individuals/persons, from one's Ancestral Lines, ALREADY existing in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch', are discovered.
Use the "Find" facility/function/feature to Search "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch', one may be surprised to find some (if not, many) of them already there.
Many well established and documented (eg. "Sourced") individuals/person in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' have been RUINED, by the upload, a GEDCOM File, into "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch'.
I hope this puts things into perspective.
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Here are some "Knowledge Articles" in 'FamilySearch':
What happens to information uploaded from a GEDCOM file?
Where it states, among other things:
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Family Tree
After you upload your GEDCOM file to the Pedigree Resource File, you can transfer the information to Family Tree. We do not typically recommend that you do this, since the information may already be in Family Tree. Transferring the information from a GEDCOM file can end up creating more work for you or someone else to do:
- You may add duplicate records to Family Tree, which will need to be merged.
- You may overwrite or delete accurate information that is already in Family Tree with less accurate or less complete information from your GEDCOM file.
- The sources, notes, and media in your GEDCOM file cannot be transferred to Family Tree.
- The relationships to parents and spouses are not automatically included when you transfer the person to Family Tree. However, the parents and spouses are listed separately, and when they are compared and transferred to Family Tree, the relationships are automatically created.
- Your FamilySearch contact name and information will be shown in Family Tree as the contributor.
Important: Before you transfer information from a GEDCOM file, make sure that it contains information that is not already in Family Tree.
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Which, MANY; Many; many, DO NOT either, 'read'; and/or, 'take note of'.
Now ...
All That Said ...
Here an another old 'standby' of mine, that I have previously proffered on occasion ...
[ Which MANY Users/Patrons are NOT aware ... ]
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Most new (and, some old) Users/Patrons DO NOT understand the basic 'nature' and 'premise' of "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch', when they join in.
Please let me explain ...
We do not have our OWN "Tree" in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch'.
We ONLY have "Branches" (ie. Ancestral" lines), that are interconnected, in this SINGLE "One" World "Tree", for all of us, that is "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch'.
"Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' is NOT like 'On-Line' "Websites" (eg. "Ancestry_com"; or "MyHeritage_com"; or, the like); and/or, 'standalone' personal (computer) programmes (eg, the OLD, now no longer supported, "PAF"; or, "Ancestral Quest"; or, the like).
We DO NOT have "Private"/"Personal" 'Trees' in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' like other 'On-Line' "Websites"; and/or, 'standalone' personal (computer) programmes.
We do not even, own; or, manage; and, are NOT even responsible for, the "Deceased" individuals/persons in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch'.
And, most importantly ...
We DO NOT even, own; or, manage; and, are NOT even responsible for, Our OWN "Deceased" Ancestors/Family/Relatives in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch'.
"Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' is built on a "Open Edit" Platform - hence, why any registered User/Patron can "Edit" (ie. Add, Delete; and/or, Change) ANY "Deceased" individual/person in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch'.
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I know that this does not help; but, I hope that this gives some greater, insight; and, perspective.
Brett
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Thank you very much. Very well said and makes good sense. When I saw a relative in MyHeritage and it was also in Familysearch, but it wasn't flagged as a duplicate in Famiysearch, that caused me to pause doing any import. Fortunately it was the first name that popped up. I'll just keep the MyHeritage upload as a reference point and not do any uploads or copying over. Thanks again for your insight and help....
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Do have a follow-up question. What are your thoughts about the sync program between MyHeritage and Familysearch? I'm not sure how valuable that is and what it does, I'm presuming it compares trees and only updates/changes things in MyHeritage and not FamilySearch, but I could be wrong.
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Jonathan
I am sorry ...
Unfortunately ...
I basically use "MyHeritage_com" for, searching; and, transferring/attaching "Sources", across to individuals/persons (and, Couples), into "Family Tree", of 'FamilySearch'.
Whereas, I do not specifically maintain, an "Ancestral" Line (ie. 'Tree'), in "MyHeritage_com".
So ...
That Said ...
I do not have any thoughts; and, cannot advise, on the "Synchronising" between, "MyHeritage_com"; and, 'FamilySearch', with regards to individuals/persons (and, Couples); especially, on the "MyHeritage_com" end.
Although ...
I know that there is an INTERFACE between, 'FamilySearch'; and, "MyHeritage_com", that does work.
But ...
That Said ...
Over the years, there has been significant problems/issues, on the "MyHeritage_com" end, when they made "Changes" to their "System", that needed to be address/fixed, on their end
Again, sorry.
Brett
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no problem was kind of wondering if it was worth looking into or not. I'm very leery of doing anything with the FamilySearch tree without good indexing and documentation. Will just use these other sites as comparables for now, appreciate all your feedback......
jonathan
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Jonathan
I am just the opposite ...
I believe, that "Family Tree", of 'FamilySearch'; and, 'FamilySearch', is a far much better proposition, rather than "MyHeritage_com"; and, OTHER Websites.
I use the OTHER Websites; as, Research Tools, for some of the "Images" of Records; and, some of the Records, that are NOT available on 'FamilySearch', due in part, mostly to the 'Auspicious' (ie. 'Sway'/'Control') of the "Commercial" Websites.
Many of those Records (and, "Images") were ONCE, available for FREE to access/view, on 'FamilySearch'; but, once the "Commercial" Websites got involved, 'FamilySearch' was made to "Remove" those Records (and, "Images") from "Public" access.
That was; and, still is, disappointing ...
Many User/Patrons, just DO NOT have the "Funds", to subscribe to the "Commercial" Websites; and/or, pay the 'Fees" charged by the "Record Custodians", to get access to the Records.
Just my thoughts.
Brett
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Good points. I'm somewhat dismayed as I dive into all this to see all the charges being tossed around at the various genealogy sites. I like to keep things straight and simple, so will keep my focus on FamilySearch for now. Really appreciate all your insights and expertise........jonathan
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