What happened to the new AI field-indexed Italian records?
@SerraNola @Áine.ní.Donnghaile
The AI field-indexed Italian records that started showing up in the past few months are all of a sudden no longer viewable. Examples:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:6NH1-H3HT?lang=en
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:6NHY-6CH9
Similarly, those newly indexed records are still showing as record hints on profiles, but you can no longer view the indexed information or link them as sources. Example:
https://www.familysearch.org/en/tree/person/research-help/GY88-7QW
What's going on?
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I encountered one of those a few months ago. The AI index appeared in a search for the person, but could not be opened to view even the full details of the extract.
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@Cousin Vinny My first thought was new DGA restrictions, but I am not seeing anything in the permissions change log for those films. I have a request in for Rights Management to take a look.
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I noticed this myself early last week. Record hints ALL over my family tree have shown up, but are all unviewable. I wasn't sure how or where to ask about this.
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@Benjamin830 Are yours also for Bari?
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@SerraNola it is also happening for Cosenza province
https://www.familysearch.org/en/tree/person/research-help/GLF4-JXT
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@Cousin Vinny Are you able to view this record?
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:6NHB-JFT5?lang=en
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Yes
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I am guessing that was probably a volunteer-indexed record.
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@Cousin Vinny I got the final word and it is what we feared. They had to move almost 500K films to a DGA contract that allows access only to LDS accounts. I'm so sorry.
The link I sent was a record attached to the tree. I noticed in the indexes that everything attached was unlocked, but that doesn't help with the record hints.
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Thanks for following up, @SerraNola.
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We'll that's...extremely disappointing.
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No. Licata, Termini Immerse in Sicily, and several towns including Rionero Sannitico in (Campobasso) Molise, along with many other records I've looked at. It seems to be basically all of Italy. This makes sense with your latest post that it was a broader change in the data.
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Agreed. 😞
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Da quel che si legge in giro su facebook, reddit e qui: https://italianismo.com.br/it/italia-restringe-acesso-aos-documentos-historicos-no-familysearch/
e su questo forum italiano: https://www.tuttogenealogia.it/viewtopic.php?p=215006#p215006
pare che la Direzione Generale degli Archivi, l'ente pubblico che gestisce gli Archivi di Stato e che dipende dal Ministero della Cultura, abbia modificato unilateralmente il contratto con FS impedendogli di mostrare i registri di sua pertinenza e anche la maggior parte dei metadati estratti.
Una pessima notizia.
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Translation: "Based on what is circulating on Facebook, Reddit, and here: https://italianismo.com.br/it/italia-restringe-acesso-aos-documentos-historicos-no-familysearch/
and on this Italian forum: https://www.tuttogenealogia.it/viewtopic.php?p=215006#p215006
it appears that the Directorate General for Archives—the public body responsible for managing the State Archives, which falls under the Ministry of Culture—has unilaterally modified its contract with FS, thereby preventing it from displaying the records under its jurisdiction, as well as the majority of the extracted metadata.
This is terrible news."
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It looks like a lot of these also stopped showing up on profiles as Record Hints over the weekend as well. It's as if they were never viewable.
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I noticed the same thing, but I don't understand what it means. It's a shame that neither the DGA nor the FS have issued any communication regarding this issue.
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The hints were generated when the records were still viewable. Once the records were removed from view, we could no longer see the record images, but the hints were still present until the next refresh of the record set. Once the record set was refreshed, the hints disappeared.
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Despite a new agreement between the DGA and FamilySearch, access to Italian records is still blocked for now.
https://archivi.cultura.gov.it/archivio-notizie/notizia?tx_news_pi1%5Baction%5D=detail&tx_news_pi1%5Bcontroller%5D=News&tx_news_pi1%5Bnews%5D=2528&cHash=30452a6ae6059ffb53c67d1917f50556
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Here is hot link to the article referenced by @Andreaq69 and containing interesting facts and figures. Scroll down for the English translation:
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