Please remove the Instructions on printed temple cards.
I print a lot of name cards for temple work. In these 'tight economic' times, and with the cost of ink, is there any way you can somehow put a 'Got it' square to check that the instructions have been read and understood? And then those instrucions can be deleted before the card is printed? Having to print off that side panel with all the instructions on it adds up to a lot of ink. Tight wad Scottish lady here, trying to cut corners.
Thanks for your consideration, and hopefully SOMEONE in your computer savvy department can come up with a solution.
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I read through the other posts, and did not find this suggestion. I REALLY would like to see the ability to print your family cards without printing the instructions each time. Since we have to print each name 4-5 times now, it's a waste of paper to only be able to print 3 per page, when 4 will easily fit if the instructions are not included. The temple prints 4 per page, so the computer software to do so exists - it just needs to be imported into Family Search.
Newbies can print the instructions; those of us who have been doing family history for 50+ years, would really like the economy of printing 4 names for each page, not 3.
Sherrie Wieland
Does anyone who could actually implement this change ever read these ideas -- or is it simply a community board where people voice their complaints?
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We have been reassured many times that ideas do get forwarded on to the proper department even though they never get commented on by people in those departments.
The three vs four cards per page idea has been posted on this and previous boards multiple times over the past ten years. Early on there was a reply from people from FamilySearch that explained that the size of the temple cards is fixed by the temple department and that until that department changes the size of the cards for everyone, including all the temples, FamilySearch programmers can not change the size of the cards we can print at home and that while many printers are able to print four cards per page, too many models of printers throughout the world cannot print four full sized cards per page. Their programming has to account for all possible printers everywhere. So for now we are stuck with three cards per page.
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In the interest of saving paper, could the family name cards be formatted to print five cards on a page instead of only three? "Frequent flyer" patrons don't need the instructions that are currently printed on the left side of each page. I'll include a photo example of how that could be done.
Kind regards,
Dianne McCann
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PLEASE take off all the extra writing (the directions that say “Print”, “Prepare” and “Perform”) on the pages when we print the family file name cards.
If you would take it off I could use that same paper for several cards.
If you just included the directions somewhere else, and not make it actually print on the sheet it would be soooooo much better.
Now that we have to reprint all of the cards for every ordinance it takes so much more paper.
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If there is room on that other half of the page to print more cards, you should be able to print half your cards, turn the paper over and rotate it, and run the sheets through the printer again. It shouldn't matter if there is printing on the back of the cards.
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I'll take back my comment. The area where that extra printing is is not nearly as wide as the cards. You cannot turn the paper over and print more cards because the cards on either side would overlap.
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The temple cards are 3⅛ inches by 4⅞ inches (80 mm by 123 mm). So there's certainly no room to print two columns of cards on a 8½ x 11 inch page (4⅞ is more than half of 8½). The only way to squeeze one more card onto a single sheet would be to print them on a landscape piece of paper in a 2x2 grid. But that would make it much harder to provide the instructions in the remaining space. I imagine that the decision makers for this question decided that the most important factors are the simplicity of printing in portrait orientation and having clear, easily readable instructions. That's more valuable than squeezing 4 cards instead of 3 onto a page.
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I would like to bring this topic up again and help optimising the layout of name card printing.
The other day I was in Copenhagen for a baptism session with my children. As we had not printed out the prepared names, but just picked them out, the sister in the temple office scanned the QR codes and then printed out the name cards. This ended up with 4 names on one sheet of paper, arranged in two rows and two columns in landscape format, Perfectly space saving, easy to cut out, great. Just as I have always wished for at home.
Because when I prepare the names via Familysearch, I also get 4 names, but they are arranged in one column below each other, which results in 3 names on the first page and 1 name on the second page. In addition, instructions for cutting out the name cards are printed off to the side.
I assume that the vast majority of members who are already ready to prepare their own names for the temple will not need the instructions. And even if they did, the instructions could be placed as a separate second page at the back in a sensible one-page layout for the name cards. Then everyone can decide for themselves whether to print the instructions as well or just print the first page with the names and, if necessary, read the instructions off the screen while cutting out the names.
So this is an official feature request:
I ask for the layout to be changed from 4 names spread over two pages to a layout that fits on one page, e.g. landscape format, the 4 names arranged in two columns and two rows. The instructions on a second page.
Or, if we get 5 names, the layout as shown in the first post: 3 names in the first column, 2 names in the second column (turned 90 degrees to fit on the page).
After all, we don't only want to save our ancestors, but also the rainforest ;)
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Trying to fit 5 cards on a page is not reasonable. The width of a card (4 7/8") plus the height of a card (3 1/8") equals a full 8 inches. Many printers have an unprintable margin greater than 1/4", which means that 8" of content can't be printed on 8 1/2" wide paper. And if you think a little more broadly than US paper sizes, note that A4 paper is 210 mm wide, but the width (123 mm) and the height (80 mm) add up to 203 mm, which could not be printed on hardly any printer on 210 mm wide paper.
The suggestion to print 4 cards could be possible, but only if you eliminate the requirement to eliminate the instructions (or reduce the instructions to just a few words). For whatever reasons (and I assume they were carefully thought out by the product managers), including instructions is indeed a requirement.
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Alright, this is what I suggest. Put 4 names on page 1 and the instructions on page 2.
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It would be so much nicer to print 6 cards per page instead of just 3. Maybe eliminate the instructions on the left side of the page
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There's no way to print six cards on a page, at least not with cards the size they are now. Four is the most that could possibly fit.
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Please remove the Instructions on printed temple cards. They are on every. single. page. Why? At most a new user would need them 1 time, and I hope 99% of people can figure out how to cut out a print out without paragraphs of instructions. I have to upload them, use a PDF editor to remove the unnecessary and duplicative instructions if I dont' want to print the instructions. If you don't manually remove them you are wasting a fair amount of ink. OR if there has to be instructions do in on the screen, or just 1x please.
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I have a friend who does 45-60 sealings every day the temple is open. For him, ink cartridges are a substantial financial outlay. For as many times as he has had each page printed out, he doesn't need to read the directions anymore. If there is a square to check off if one does not want his name and address attached to a temple card, then why couldn't there be a box to check to delete the printing of the directions?
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You can print a FOR and the temple will print your cards on their paper. Also you can print your cards at any FamilySearch Center.
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for ordinances like baptism and sealings, i'd like to be able to print multiple per sheet (5 or even 10) that don't require cutting them up.
at the end of the session, any names that were not completed could be crossed out. and yes familysearch might show that names were printed which have been destroyed by the recorder's office for any partially completed pages, but i already lost control of what cards have been printed long ago when the temple stopped returning cards which had unfinished ordinances on them (for example, card was printed with BCIESP and was destroyed after completing BC or I).
temple names are already handled this way (multiple names on a single sheet of paper, no cutting them out).
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Please make it so that we don’t have to print all the instructions on the side of the page when we print out new family name cards. Most of us know this already. It can be listed in instructions somewhere, but we shouldn't have to print them out with every sheet.
It’s a waste of paper (& ink) and doesn’t allow me to print more than 3/page.
At the temple when I print, I get 4/page.... and the instructions are not included.
Can you make that an option for us at HOME as well?
Thank you,
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Amen.
we know what we are to do. Please make the page with a minimum of waste.
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So true. It is Ireally isn't necessary to see those instructions on every page. I'd love to be able to print 4 cards per page and not use the ink on repeated instructions.
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@Barbara Morriss, you can always print a one page FOR and have the temple print your family cards using their paper and ink
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Mod note - Several requests for removing the print instructions from ordinance cards have been merged here.
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