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Rolanda Helena Godfrey
Rolanda Helena Godfrey ✭
August 11, 2021 in Search

Please advise how I can view a death record which appears on Ancestry, but have not been able to find it in FamilySearch

Record: Johan Frederik Kirsten died Cape Town, South Africa in 1890. The Ancestry .com. record is shown as follows:

Ancestry record:

Cape Province, South Africa, Estates Death notice Index, 1834-1956

Name: Johan Frederick Kirsten

Volume : 6/9/276

Reference : 21

Source : Master's Office/Orphan Chamber, Cape Town (MOOC)

Source Location : National Archives, Cape Town (KAB)


Citation Information

Source Information

TITLE : Cape Province, South Africa, Estates Death Notice Index, 1834-1956

AUTHOR : Ancestry.com

PUBLISHER : 2016

PUBLISH LOCATION : LEHI, UT,USA


Associated Facts

Name: Johan Frederik Kirsten

Death: 1890. Cape Town, Cape Colony, South Africa

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  • Brett .
    Brett . ✭✭✭✭✭
    August 11, 2021 edited August 11, 2021

    @Rolanda Helena Godfrey

    Rolanda

    I am just another 'lowly' User/Patron ...

    'Yes', you are correct, the Record DOES NOT appear to be in 'FamilySearch'.

    And ...

    Short Answer: You DO NOT, need to look, at the record on 'Ancestry_com'; as, you already have all the details

    There is NO more.

    That record is ONLY an "Index" (ie. NO Image. Text-Only Collection), in 'Ancestry_com'.

    You ALREADY have, ALL that there is, in 'Ancestry_com' ... there ain't no more.

    I hope this helps.

    Brett

    ps: IF, you do not have access to 'Ancestry_com'; THEN, you should be able to get access to 'look' at the record on 'Ancestry_com', at/through, a "Family History Centre" (FHC) of the Church, around the World (provided a FHC near you is OPEN; and, the FHC "Portal" is up and running; as, it has been unavailable for maintenance and updates, for the last few Months, now); or, possibly at/through an 'Affiliate' Library, around the World.

    .

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  • MaureenE123
    MaureenE123 ✭✭✭✭
    August 11, 2021

    The Ancestry database is https://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/collections/61358/

    This says Original data: 

    Cape Estates Death Index. Records of the Master's Office / Orphan Chamber, Cape Town. Cape Town Archives & National Archives, Cape Town.

    "This collection consists of an index to death notices held by the Cape Town Master's Office, which were received as part of the administration of deceased estates for the years 1834 to 1956. The information available for each death notice includes the name of the deceased, year of death, and information on the source and location of the records included in this index"

    You could enquire from the "Cape Town Archives & National Archives, Cape Town" whether it still holds the original records on which the Index is based, and if so, how to obtain a copy, but there is a possibility that the original records were destroyed, and all that remains is the Index.

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