4 generations
My WTFHC in our committee meeting asked if a husband has completed his complete 4 generations on his tree including his wife and her family does that account for both the husband and wife having completed the 4 generation assignment, or do they both need an account and enter the Generations?
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Family Search is a one world collaborative tree. The wife will show on the husband's account as long as he has entered her in his Private Space and then entered all information up to the first deceased relative.
These relatives, however, are hers. They are not his relatives. If they are interested in printing a Family Tree of Four Generation pedigree, they will need to do so for each of them.
We would recommend that the wife have her own account as the accounts are free.
If we understand the question, this man is looking to "fulfill" an assignment of making sure they have their four generations completed.
First: this "assignment" was given in the early 1960's. The program as it was laid out at that time no longer exists. All members of the LDS church are encouraged to fill out their 4 generation pedigrees, at a minimum, on Family Search.
If he has done this for himself, that is wonderful. However, that does not mean it is completed for his wife. His pedigree is different from hers. Her pedigree goes through HER parents and then their parents etc.
If her deceased family is not already entered into Family Search, (which as the above answered, they most likely do) then it will not automatically fill in. If her deceased family members have been entered by others, then when she enters the name there will be a pop-up that says the system has found a similar name and ask if it matches? If it does, then she should choose "yes". If the system does not find that person then it will tell her that it has not found the name and would she like to create a new person? She can then create a new person. If the person is deceased, she will be required to declare that.
If the person already is in the system, please choose yes or a duplicate will be created.
We hope this helps. If you have further questions, please post them to this thread.
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its all a single collaborative family tree database.
any deceased people entered by the husband - would be viewable by the wife on her account
definitely no need for double entry (for deceased people) - its one single collaborative database where any specific one deceased person - would only exist in the system once - no matter who is accessing the system..
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of course the wife (who is living) may need to enter links to her most recent deceased ancestors - (as well as enter any ancestors still living - such as parents) if such links don't yet exist - but once she does that - then the generations beyond that come up automatically - and she probably has links to literally thousands of ancestors (entered by other people who share common ancestry)
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In reply to: cindyItracymarcusen1
Im a little confused by this statement
If they are interested in printing a Family Tree of Four Generation pedigree, they will need to do so for each of them.
not sure what you meant by "for each of them" . . .
there really is no reason the husband cannot print a 4 pedigree chart for both him and his wife - and really no need that the wife has to do anything on her account - if she doesnt want to .
a pedigree chart can be printed for anyone in FamilySearch - whether they are a relative or not.
the husband can print a pedigree for both him and his wife (assuming he has entered his wife and made her connections to her deceased ancestors)
The one nuance to the above - is that the living husband will need to create a record on his account for his living wife. The living wife (can, but doesn't have to) create a record on her account for the living husband.
BUT once connections are made to deceased persons - there is clearly no need to enter someone (deceased) into the system that has already been entered by someone else.
anyone can enter a record for a deceased person - whether they are related or not - and such record creation - then pre-empts the need for anyone else to have to re-enter that persons info.
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If we understand the question, this man is looking to "fulfill" an assignment of making sure they have their four generations completed.
First: this "assignment" was given in the early 1960's. The program as it was laid out at that time no longer exists. All members of the LDS church are encouraged to fill out their 4 generation pedigrees, at a minimum, on Family Search.
I think there is a bit of confusion in the above statement. This does not sound like it was an assignment from the 1960's. it sounds like this was an assignment given now to the committee he is on by the ward consultant. Sounds like a reasonable project since the percentage of people in the ward who have the four generations completed in Family Tree is on the ward report. Working to get as high a percentage as possible on that report sounds like a good goal.
For the sake of the ward goal, I agree it would be a good idea for both husband and wife to have their own accounts. Then they can both make sure enough living people are in to connect to the main Family Tree then see if each of their 4 generation charts really are complete.
This is kind of similar to a goal my stake had a few years ago to have a certain number of the stake members, as shown on the Family History report, submit a name for ordinances. The number was pretty miserable until they realized that a parent would go in and submit six names and figure that counted for all six people in the family. It wasn't until they urged everyone in a family to use each of their own accounts to submit a name that they reached their goal.
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yes - as far as (stats/reporting numbers) - the more people in the family that use their own account in the ward the higher the reporting numbers
my comments - were mainly focused on the fact that any names (of deceased) persons entered on husbands account do not need to be re-entered into wife's account since it is a single collaborative database. A husband could in theory - input his wife's entire 4 generations if he wished (chances are though most of those 4 generations are already in FS FT to begin with) - but the wife would not have to re-enter a single one of them in that scenario.
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Hello @Tom.King
I think you are asking about the "First Four Generations of Ancestors in the Tree" recorded in the Family History Activity Report?
All I could find was that the chart "represents all adults and youth in the unit" and ''it does not cover activity in accounts for members who are still Primary age".
I think, to be generated in the report, the number would have to come from a person's account. How else could that information be gained? So the husband and the wife would have to both have an account for the total in the report to reflect that both had completed their first four generations.
I can only suggest for further clarification that you scroll to the bottom of the Family History Activity Report page and and click Do You Have Feedback on This Page?
Perhaps you could report back here what you find out?
This is the knowledge article where I found the most useful information....
But hey, the Family History Activity Report is only an indication of the level of family history activity in a ward. I suppose, ideally we would like all our members to enjoy the blessings of involvement in family history and it would be good if both had an account so they could both participate and enjoy the blessings.
best regards
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The report would look at the user /owner of the account - and see if they have 4 generations linked back recorded in FamilyTree
Whether every / any individual in the specific 4 generations tree was actually input by that same user or by someone else (such as a spouse, cousin, or anyone else) would be totally irrevelant (as far as the reporting).
For example - I myself have not created a single one of the records for my 4 generations - they already existed in FamilySearch - and I merely linked to pre-existing records.
yeh - the spouse would probably have to have an account - and be linked to her ancestors - but thats about all that would be needed for the report count. (even if someone else had already entered her 4 generations of deceased ancestors)
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