Godparents erroneously indexed at parents

Gina Palmer

Oftersheim Kirchenbücher (Gebursbuch 1697-1808)

DGS 102060841, images 514-527 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSWZ-6914-4?mode=g&i=513&cc=3015626

The records in the first 14 images of this book are presented in a different format than the usual format. Entries are presented in family groups, with the name of the husband and wife and their marriage date in the first column, multiple children born to each couple are listed to the right on the same page. Each child's entry includes name, godparent's name and baptism date. In this section, godparents were indexed as parents - which is incorrect and can cause confusion and possibly creating incorrect relationships as images are attached.

N Tychonievich

@Gina Palmer We would like to be able to confirm the error in these 14 images in order to alert a team of specialists to the problem. But the URL you provided brings up a message that the images are not available and when we searched the catalog for DGS 102060841, we got no results.

We do see that the index and images were done in partnership with Ancestry.com for the larger record collection: Germany, Lutheran Baptism, Marriages, and Burials 1500-1971. Perhaps permissions to access this DGS have changed.

Could you double-check your URL and DGS numbers? Or help us find a way to see what you are seeing?

We did check the catalog for church records for Oftersheim, Baden, Germany, and we do not see a Gebursbuch entry. So, we'd appreciate any help you can provide to locate these records. Thank you.

Gina Palmer

@N Tychonievich It looks like these are restricted images. I'm guessing the DGS provided doesn't appear in the catalog because it comes from the "Ancestry collection."

Geburtsbuch 1697-1808 was taken from the actual image.

These books would be the following in the FS catalog: https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/76404

Taufen 1684-1724, 1724-1808,  DGS 4038463.

cesarnarcisotinocoperez1

Hola Gina Palmer ve si es le puede interesar-

¿Cómo especifico en el Árbol Familiar los parentescos biológicos, por afinidad, adoptivos y de tutela?

Article Id: 2029

, Publicado 06 de abril de 2021

El tipo de parentesco especifica el parentesco de un hijo con un padre/madre. En este momento, el Árbol Familiar proporciona 5 tipos de parentesco:

• Adoptivo
• Biológico
• Custodia
• De tutela
• Por afinidad

Cuando se enlaza a un hijo a un padre/madre, el Árbol Familiar asume que el parentesco es biológico. De no ser así, hay una manera sencilla de cambiarlo.

Pasos (sitio web)

1. Después de iniciar sesión en FamilySearch.org, haga clic en Árbol Familiar.
2. Vaya a la página Persona del antepasado.
3. Si no se ve Información esencial cerca de la parte superior de la página, haga clic en Detalles.
4. Desplácese a la sección Miembros de la familia.
5. Debajo de Padres y hermanos, encuentre el nombre del hijo, y haga clic en el icono de Editar.

• Cambie el tipo de parentesco actual haciendo clic en el botón Agregar tipo de parentesco de las secciones Madre o Padre. Explique el motivo del cambio, y haga clic en Guardar. También puede hacer clic en Suprimir o Reemplazar para suprimir el tipo de parentesco.
• Incluya la información de parentesco que haga falta haciendo clic en Agregar tipo de parentesco. Seleccione un tipo de parentesco, explique el motivo del cambio, y haga clic en Guardar.
• Para ver un resumen de todos los detalles del parentesco del hijo, haga clic en Cambios más recientes y después haga clic en Mostrar todo; desde allí edite la información.

Gina Palmer

@ cesarnarcisotinocoperez1 Thank you for your post. That didn't apply to the situation. My post was not a question, but to make someone aware of an indexing error. Since the relationships were indexed incorrectly it will cause problems finding records, as well as trying to attach them to individuals in Family Tree. Or, if a relationship is created based on the indexed information, wrong relationships will be created.

N Tychonievich

@Gina Palmer Looking at the catalog entry for DGS 4038463, we see that FamilySearch only has an index to this film available for online viewing. Since we do not have online access to the record images, we have no way to confirm errors.

We notice that the larger record collection that this DGS is part of, Germany Births and Baptisms, is one of the older "Legacy" collections that was indexed prior to 2010. These older collections are known to have many errors. You might be interested in the Wiki article that describes the known issues for this particular record collection:

https://www.familysearch.org/wiki/en/Germany_Births_and_Baptisms_-_FamilySearch_Historical_Records/Known_Issues

If you found these records on another website, you can create a source for an ancestor on Family Tree that will point to that source if you'd like to. When you do that, you might want to note the issues you found that could be confusing to other users.