Home› Welcome to the FamilySearch Community!› FamilySearch Help› General Questions

Some of my Records?

BRIAN LAKE
BRIAN LAKE ✭
July 18, 2021 edited November 1, 2021 in General Questions
John,Christopher,James Mad Lake 1.JPG

In the above picture I accessed the Christopher Lake record through my "Tree" option in the initial menu and the first thing I noticed was that the son John was shown as married to Elizabeth Parrott while my original file that I uploaded shows my John as married to a Mary Laughlin. I have Elizabeth Parrott married to a John Lake, son of James Lake and Margaret Hagerman. This at first confused me because as you can see James and Margaret are shown below Christopher's records. Also, under John's "Memories" the only memory seems to refer to James Lake which I would like to delete/remove but there does not seem to be a option to do that. I am still confused as to what this means. Is this indicating an error in the data?

0

Answers

  • MNuttall
    MNuttall ✭✭✭
    July 18, 2021

    Hello @BRIAN LAKE.

    The situation here with your ancestor is that John Lake is shown with two sets of parents, Christopher Lake and Susannah Cousins, as well as James Madison Lake Sr. and Margaret Hegeman. You will need to determine which set of parents is correct and then remove John as a child from the incorrect set of parents.

    Secondly, John Lake L8YS-BN8 is shown with two spouses: Elizabeth Parrott and Mary Stover. You indicate that John's wife should be Mary Laughlin. There is a source attached to John giving evidence that his wife was Elizabeth Parrott. Elizabeth Parrott evidently married a second time to Andrew Bartels (Bartles).

    This is actually a good source for John's parents, because they are named as James Lake Sr. and Margaret "Hagerman."

    You will need to decide if the spouse shown as Mary Stover GHQ5-C79 is correct, or is she some variation of Mary Laughlin (per your records)?

    Here is a knowledge article that explains how to correct parent-child relationships:

    https://www.familysearch.org/help/helpcenter/article/how-do-i-correct-parent-child-relationships-in-family-tree

    You will definitely want to fix any mistakes that you encounter and we suggest that you contact the other contributors for their input. A review of the Latest Changes log for John Lake might be in order as you proceed.

    Best wishes!

    0
  • BRIAN LAKE
    BRIAN LAKE ✭
    July 18, 2021

    Yes, that is true. they appear to be reversed, John and Mary Laughlin are son and DinL of Christopher and Susanna while John and Elizabeth are son and DinL of James and Margaret. I wasn't sure how to reverse them.

    Lately I have noticed a number of memories (maybe sources to) that seem to be on the wrong person, such as my question regarding the record of James Lake on the memory of John Lake. How do I remove it and put it on the correct person?

    0
  • Gordon Collett
    Gordon Collett ✭✭✭✭✭
    July 18, 2021 edited July 18, 2021

    @BRIAN LAKE

    Whenever you run across a situation like this, the very first thing to do before you do anything else is to carefully go through the Change Log.

    A person with two sets of parents, with two wives,, one of which may be clearly wrong, and a bunch of memories that don't seem to apply at all are clear warning signs of an incorrect merge.

    If that is the case, reversing the merge if you can or restoring the deleted person and then seeing what came from the deleted person and needs to be removed from the surviving person can solve all sorts of problems, including getting all the memories back where they belong. Just starting to delete relationships is going to lead to more confusion and problems.

    Looking at John Lake's change log, there was indeed a merge done on April 27, 2021 of these two people:



    Screen Shot 2021-07-18 at 10.08.35 AM.png


    Screen Shot 2021-07-18 at 10.08.18 AM.png

    Same name, same birth year but different birth places, different death years, and different death places really suggests this merge should never have been done.

    There are three other merges you should check for accuracy. Just looking at the death dates listed suggests the second and third merges are also incorrect:

    Screen Shot 2021-07-18 at 10.13.08 AM.png

    Even though those four other John Lakes are deleted, you can still go to their details page and go to their change logs and see the entire history of their profiles will all the information ever on them.

    You may need to go to the very beginning of John's Change Log and determine who this profile is really supposed to be for then work through every step to see if the various people working on his information were really all working on the same John Lake or several different ones.

    This can be a challenging project, but if you take the time to do it thoroughly and carefully, you can really help out all of these people with their various johns and get the records in such good shape that incorrect merges and incorrect changes of information will stop happening.

    Good Luck!

    1
Clear
No Groups Found

Categories

  • 30K All Categories
  • 24.1K FamilySearch Help
  • 122 Get Involved
  • 2.7K General Questions
  • 442 FamilySearch Center
  • 461 FamilySearch Account
  • 4.4K Family Tree
  • 3.4K Search
  • 4.7K Indexing
  • 635 Memories
  • 6.5K Temple
  • 321 Other Languages
  • 34 Community News
  • 6.6K Suggest an Idea
  • Groups