ALLOW at least 2 in a family to be able to SEE ALL individuals ADDED, even if they are STILL LIVING.
My daughter just returned from her mission, and she & I are working to add 300+ pages of our family genealogy. Some of them are still alive, so if she adds them, I am unable to see that their information has been added, since they are "living" & only visible to whoever added them. Especially now that our young ones are helping to do family genealogy, it would be great if at least two members of the same household could "see" all work added by the other person. This would help decrease the amount of "duplicates" and help the work to progress. This could just be a temporary "visible access" that needs to be approved every year, if that helps keep things more "secure." Hope to see this possible in the near future! #AllowFamiliesToTrulyWorkTogether
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I wish it could be more than 2. I wish there was a "share" function where all living persons I created myself had an option to be shared by me. I realize it can get messy and probably won't happen. I have used online meetings with my family when they want to see what I have done.
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For many years, even senior managers at FamilySearch have suggested this issue will be addressed in some way - even though it is fraught with privacy concerns. However, as years have gone by, it seems increasingly unlikely the legal team (who have to deal with implications relating to the privacy laws in multiple countries, of course) will be able to come up with a solution. Well, maybe implement something that some users might be happy with - but certainly not all, judging by the two comments above!
It seems an increasing number of users do wish to use Family Tree to input details of Living persons. However, at the introduction of the program, a senior manager commented that it was primarily for use in recording the details of the deceased.
I'm fine with the status quo, as I have only three individuals entered in FT who I have marked as "Living", but only as they were born less than 110 years ago and I can find no evidence of their deaths. Nevertheless, I offer my best wishes to those who want to use Family Tree - rather than their own, personal software - to record this highly-sensitive material. My views relate to the feelings of my living relatives about putting such details online - apart from my personally preferring a more secure way of retaining its privacy.
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I am sort of curious what the privacy issues would be. I have a tree in Ancestry.com now and I can share it with people. In the sharing process there is an on/off switch for whether the user can see live people or not. I doubt that option would be there if there were any legal issues.
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I am curious about something. I have done work on children, grandchildren, siblings, nieces and nephews, cousins and all kinds of cousins removed - all marked living because they are. I've uploaded photos and linked records that are public while still alive (usually marriage, divorce, etc), etc.
Once I am dead, if I am thinking about this right, none of my work will ever be visible to anyone - EVER! - that was done on individuals marked living at the time of my death. Am I correct? If so, can you imagine the huge volume of work going on that will do nothing more than take up space and never be viewed by those who would cherish it?
Hopefully there is a process by which someone could produce my death certificate and some how "take over" my account. Is there?
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This subject is fraught with may issues as Paul has pointed out. Gail - yes the living records you create who are living at the time of your death will remain hidden forever, unless there is some policy change that marks them deceased at say 150 years after birth. An ability to transfer or bequeath ownership has been discussed in the past but has never been implemented.
The privacy issue has to deal with multiple countries around the world and different rules and regulations as to what can be released. The issue is of concern to many and if the solution were simple it would have been implemented. I am sure the developers are still concerned with this issue and working on a solution. All we as users can do is wait. One solution to photos is to place them in Albums and share the album with family members so they have access to the photos.
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I think @gasmodels ., you have a good suggestion. I will begin working on creating albums and re-organizing the photos. I will add it to my to do list, which is not very short at the moment. :(
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WikiTree manages this by allowing you to add people to "trusted" lists, or even add them as "managers" with as much power over those profiles as you. Ancestry manages this by allowing you to add people as editors.
I am sure that at least Ancestry's legal team looked into this before allowing people to share their trees with others. So I am very curious of what significant legal issues apply to FamilySearch that don't apply in any other situation.
I should absolutely be able to share living profiles with specific users (i.e. my family) so we can collaboratively work on our living family tree.
WikITree also has an "Advance Directive" policy, that I have agreed to. where if I die, all information I've added is to be made public 120 years after the date it was added, to ensure there's no possibility information about living people will be made public.
Instead of vague references to international privacy laws. I'd like to see the FamilySearch legal team point out specific roadblocks that would prevent such features working. Because there are other websites who seem to be doing just fine.
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Just to clarify, are you saying that all information I input on those "living" will not be able to get their work done after I pass away, even after 110 years? All this time, I thought that the information would be able to be used on familysearch after 110 years, otherwise, why are we able to add those that are "living," if this information will just be stuck in "limbo" because we have passed on. It seems like after 110 years, FamilySearch should be able to access the information and change "living" to "deceased," so that their work can progress forward. I hope this is actually how it works.
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Yep, FS doesn't currently have a policy of opening up the records of living people after they are guaranteed to have passed away. That's such an important component.
It should be a volunteer thing. That every day, new records that have reached 120 years after their date of birth are opening up, and we can go in and merge all the duplicate records. I don't imagine it would be too many each day.
If there's no date of birth, then 120 years after the date they are added. Sure it might be a lofty goal to hope that information is here in 120 years, but I'm sure we hope the church will be around much, much longer than that.
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Gee, if that is the case, why do they let us input infor for the living, if the information can not be used after 120 years? Hope they update it to actually be useful in the future, or allow all my "living records" to be passed down to my kids, so they can keep track of it, if it needs to be done manually.
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