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Edw and Margaret show in the 1850 census but not in subsequent ones, why
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Hi John,
I need a little more information to check this out. What is their last name, dates/location of birth and area you are searching. Do you happen to have the PID number of this family in FamilySearch. Many times people have moved or last names have been indexed under a slightly different spelling. I look forward to hearing from you.
Regards, Carol Ann Selander
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Thanks Carol
Their last name is Evans. They were both born in Wales in 1824. I think they may be my gggandparents . My ggrandfather is Evan Benjamin Evans born in May 1851 in Carbondale, Luzerne, Pennsylvania which is where Edw, Margaret, and a daughter, Mary, are shown in the 1850 census
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John, Thank you for the information. The PID is KCB3-W4G. Like you, I haven't found them in the 1860 census. I suggest looking at the 1860 census for Carbondale in it's entirety to see if their is a possibility they may have been entered with a different spelling or possibly an indexing error was made. Sorry to have taken so long in replying,
Carol
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With a fairly common surname, the family might be difficult to trace if they moved away from their 1850 location. I have relatives that even returned to England after a spell in Pennsylvania, but a number moved back and forth between locations (US states and Canada), usually in a search for work. I'm sure you have tried this, but try going back from where your parents, then grandparents lived, to check on the possibilities of whether they were the type of family to keep close to home, or are found to be roaming the country.
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I think this might be the family in 1860 --- https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MXTZ-M8Q
Take a look and see if you believe this is the correct family. It appears more children were added during this time period and you can use them to look for later census records
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That looks like a match to me. The only problem lies in John implying Evan's father was known / shown as Edw(ard) in the 1850 census. I've occasionally come across first names that appear differently between records*, but I guess John needs to be the one who can confirm this is the same family, but with the father's first name incorrectly recorded in one of the two records.
(* I was dealing with one just yesterday, albeit working only with indexed records instead of the originals. A John Dodds is suddenly shown in the England & Wales census (FamilySearch indexed version) as "Saul" Dodds. The record is shown as coming from Find My Past, yet the FMP index doesn't have any Saul Dodds indexed and not even an identifiable John for that year! But, as I comment, even the originals can be inconsistent / show names incorrectly.)
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Thanks.
James and Margaret's son was born in august of 1850 and my ggrandfather was born in may of 1851. I do appreciate your help. John
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It's not just 1860. They never show up again anywhere
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I only just found the family (i.e. Edward & Margaret, etc.) in the 1850 census - I'd being searching on "Edward" instead of "Edw"! I see he is shown as a miner - so probably no connection with the farmer or the carpenter referred to below.
There is an ID for an Edward Evans, born 1824 in Wales, with wife Margaret - see GW73-SJM. This has 1870 & 1880 census sources attached (showing occupation as farmer), but shows no connection to a son Evan.
A search from the Person page of the above reveals 1849 immigration sources (U.K. to Pennsylvania) for an Edward Evans (from Wales, aged 25, a carpenter) and his wife - shown (unhelpfully) as "Mrs Evans". (See https://www.familysearch.org/search/record/results?treeref=GW73-SJM&q.givenName=Edward&q.surname=Evans&q.birthLikePlace=Wales%2C%20United%20Kingdom&q.birthLikeDate.from=1822&q.birthLikeDate.to=1826&q.deathLikePlace=Pennsylvania%2C%20United%20States&q.deathLikeDate.from=1890&q.deathLikeDate.to=1894&m.defaultFacets=on&m.queryRequireDefault=on&m.facetNestCollectionInCategory=on&count=20&offset=0)
In view of the later records that are available (and which you have already attached) relating to Evan Evans (marriage, death and 1910 & 1920 census) it does seem a mystery that no records are (easily) traceable - especially in the 1860-1900 censuses.
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Thanks for searching! jle
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