new ancestor discovery page - sources
Is the new ancestor discovery page supposed to show all sources for an ancestor or just some? I'm curious about what the "View all" in the source section is supposed to do.
Shows a count of 3. When I click on View all, I see 2. In FT there are 6 sources for this person.
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FYI
I suggest that there is CERTAINLY a DISCREPANCY, with regard to the "Sources", of our Ancestors, on the New "Discovery" version in 'FamilySearch', being "Ancestors.FamilySearch [ https://ancestors.familysearch.org/ ].
For example, I have:
▬ One Ancestor who has some x79 "Sources" attached; whereas, in the New "Discovery" version, ONLY x1 "Source" is indicated; and,
▬ Another Ancestor who has some x35 "Sources" attached; whereas, in the New "Discovery" version, NO (ie. NONE) "Sources" are indicated.
Whereby ...
On the New "Discovery" version in 'FamilySearch', being "Ancestors.FamilySearch", for my Ancestor that DOES indicate that there IS just ONE "Source", in fact, there are MANY other "Sources" attached to that Ancestors, that relate to "Historical Documents" (ie. 'Official Government', Birth/Marriage/Death Registrations; and, Census'; and, the like), MANY in/of/from 'FamilySearch' itself.
Whereas ...
On the New "Discovery" version in 'FamilySearch', being "Ancestors.FamilySearch", for my Ancestor that DOES NOT indicate "Sources", it states: "There are no historical documents attached to ..."
That statement in "Absolutely" INCORRECT; because, in fact, there ARE "Sources" attached to my Ancestor that relate to "Historical Documents" (ie. 'Official Government', Birth/Marriage/Death Registrations; and, Census'; and, the like), MANY in/of/from 'FamilySearch' itself.
So ...
That said ...
'Yes', I would suggest that the New "Discovery" version in 'FamilySearch', being "Ancestors.FamilySearch", is SUPPOSED to show ALL "Sources" being "Historical Documents" (other than, "User-Defined/Created" ones) that are attached, to our Ancestors; but, for whatever reason, DOES NOT (ie. there is problem/issue, there is a FAULT / FLAW - that NEEDS addressing/fixing).
Just my thoughts.
Brett
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The Show All regarding sources on the Discovery page is to show all the details of just up to those 3 sources. The page is not meant to be all inclusive of everything in the Family Tree for that person - just a summary. The Discovery page is a discovery activity tool that most people will find by Googling their relatives name. It is a gateway to lead them to the FamilySearch Family Tree for the first time.
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Amy
Appreciate your response ...
But ...
FIRSTLY ...
I am very well aware, of the purpose, of the "Discovery Page", of our Ancestors, in the (New) "Discovery" version in 'FamilySearch', being "Ancestors.FamilySearch", which IS meant as a 'gateway' (ie. a 'Tool'), for those searching the INTERNET (eg. 'Google' Search), for their Ancestry, to lead them to 'FamilySearch' (in particular, "Family Tree').
SECONDLY ...
You MAY be CORRECT that in what you are saying that ...
"... Discovery page is to show all the details of just up to those 3 sources".
But ...
That said ...
THIRDLY ...
You do not seem to understand my previous response ...
FINALLY ...
There DOES appear to be a FAULT / FLAW, with the the "Discovery Page", of our Ancestors, in the (New) "Discovery" version in 'FamilySearch', being "Ancestors.FamilySearch", regarding "Sources", that NEEDS addressing/fixing.
FURTHERMORE ...
On the "Discovery Page", for MANY of my Ancestors, not just those I mentioned in my response, it indicates that they have NO associated "Sources", that relate to "Historical Documents" (ie. "There are no historical documents attached to xxxx") - this is INCORRECT; as, when, in fact, there are such "Historical Documents" associated (ie. "Attached") to them.
Examples ...
And, those "Historical Documents", to which I refer, that ARE associated (ie. "Attached") to my Ancestors in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch', are 'Official' Government, "Historical Documents", Birth/Marriage/Death Registrations; and, Census'; and, the like.
Plus, those "Historical Documents", to which I refer, that ARE associated (ie. "Attached") to my Ancestors in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch', ARE "All" those that are "Sources" from WITHIN 'FamilySearch' ITSELF. They are NOT, transferred from OTHER "Third Party" Applications; nor, "User-Defined/Created".
So ...
To reiterate ...
In refining my previous response ...
I would suggest that the New "Discovery" version in 'FamilySearch', being "Ancestors.FamilySearch", is NOT showing RELEVANT "Historical Documents" [ ie, REGARDLESS of the number of such that are shown ]; as, associated "Sources" (other than, "Third Party" Applications; and/or, "User-Defined/Created" ones), that are "Attached", to our Ancestors, to which is supposed to do; but, for whatever reason, DOES NOT; and, that there IS a problem/issue, that being a FAULT / FLAW, that NEEDS addressing/fixing.
Now ...
All that said ...
As such ...
As, an "Official 'FamilySearch' Representative", can you please refer this WHOLE matter to those in 'FamilySearch' working on the the "Discovery Page", of our Ancestors, in the (New) "Discovery" version in 'FamilySearch', being "Ancestors.FamilySearch", for their, information, attention; and, consideration.
'Thank You' in advance.
Brett
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Please please put sources on the new discovery page! Why have the page if we can't see the sources and the "story" of the person!
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Michelle
FYI
There is, ALREADY, provision for, "Source", on the "Discovery Page", of our Ancestors, in the (New) "Discovery" version in 'FamilySearch', being "Ancestors.FamilySearch" ...
Take a 'look' at those two (x2) "Images' in my previous post/comment ...
There just appears to be some problems/issues ...
Brett
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I hope they get the problems and issues fixed. My families have many historical document sources attached from familysearch. Sometimes the new pages say Zero sources, sometimes only 1 or 2 sources, which are census. Why can't all sources be placed on that page? Again, the family story IS in the attached sources!
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Maybe sources on the discovery page have to meet certain requirements. For example, an image available through FamilySearch must be included. There could be legal issues for sources that may include user-attached information from subscription sites. Index-only records are less reliable. Private and image-only sources are unverified, etc. Just a guess.
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Returning to @CathyAH's comment, I think she shares my experience is of cognitive dissonance. I look at a profile that I created and I know 20+ sources are attached, the fruit of much hard work. I click VIEW ALL and don't see them and I think "Is that all?!"
Wouldn't a small change of wording add clarity? Change "VIEW ALL" to "VIEW DETAIL". That certainly makes more sense for the sources panel, and perhaps also for the other panels.
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