Sharing the Tree
I know you want other people to open accounts. What I suggest is that you make it easy to share a tree and if they want to change it, they set up an account based on claiming one of the people that is in the tree.
Can we do that?
there are grand children and nephews/nieces and others that will have no interest in participating in the tree but should be able to see it.
or are there more robust printing options that would allow a full tree print?
There needs to be a better way to share the tree without having to sign people up
One way FamilySearch is encouraging people to check out Family Tree and get involved with their ancestors is through the new Ancestor pages. These can be found through Google and do not require a FamilySearch account.
here the first result is the link for my great-great-grandfather: https://ancestors.familysearch.org/en/KWJZ-92G/daniel-collett-1807-1894
You can see here most of the information that you can on Family Tree. Find links like this for your ancestors and share them with your grandchildren, nephews, and nieces that would enjoy seeing all this.
Regarding printing family trees, if you go to the Solutions Gallery (the link is at the bottom of each FamilySearch page) and set the first filter to Charts, there are 32 items that claim they can print charts from Family Tree. I'm sure the fanciest could be expensive, but there may be something there of use to you.0
Is there a way that we can share that link rather than google search it?
since we have an account, I am unclear if I am finding something b/c of my account permisions or something that is public?0
The starting page for this relatively new way to share is https://ancestors.familysearch.org/en As you can see at the top of the page, the usual sign in link is not there. Anyone can come here. Unfortunately, their system to browse for a last name is not very efficient and this is not searchable yet. However the Ancestors site is entirely public. Anything you see, anyone will see so, yes, just share the links.0
unfortunately, there really isn't a good way to share your tree. either through print or a virtual link.
I wonder what the point of building the tree is if no one can see it?0
You say, "There needs to be a better way to share the tree without having to sign people up".
I can't see the objection to signing-up for an account if you really desire access to the detail that will then be available. The only detail that will not be available is that relating to living persons who have been entered by other users.
You also say, "I know you want other people to open accounts. What I suggest is that you make it easy to share a tree and if they want to change it, they set up an account based on claiming one of the people that is in the tree."
So, is your point that there should be a read-only option for those who do not want an account, but you are acknowledging that they will have to sign-up if they then decide they want to make changes?
I don't see how the situation with using Family Tree is any different from using a commercial website, like Find My Past or Ancestry - except its free to view all of the Familysearch website.0
Paul, that's not a very smart comment. Forcing people to sign up and then go through a complicated process (on an app with horrible UX, I might add) is ridiculous just to view a tree.
Young kids, old grandparents, how exactly are they supposed to input all this crap just to view it??
Chris is absolutely correct in asking for this feature, which is highly easy to develop, and I say that as a UX/UI designer and web app developer of the past 10 years.1
Since anyone can view any tree when given the Discovery page link to it, and has been able to for more than a year now, there is not much point to this discussion any more. If anyone wants to look at the information on a distant relative of mine without having a FamiySearch account, they are welcome to. Just go ahead and do it: https://ancestors.familysearch.org/en/LZDB-1CT/john-bronson-1602-1680
Paul's point, from so long ago that the whole web site has been updated a few hundred times, that there really shouldn't be much objection to opening a completely free account for access to all the information posted on a person and the ability to add more, is still completely valid.1
@Paul W and @Gordon Collett yes, what @Chris Kerrigan and @Timothy8,677 are saying is that there are people in their families that currently aren't that interested in jumping through a lot of hoops if they can't see what they are jumping for.
Gordon you suggested sending them a relative's page like your family member's John Bronson. I browsed the page. Even tried clicking on siblings and parents. Almost all were Bronsons.
I'm sure Chris and Timothy are like me in wanting to show this relative something that might have a surname they might recognize. THEN they might have interest in digging deeper.
Anyway, I did what you suggested. First I had to find out what a Discovery Page was because when I just went to "my portion of the tree" I clicked on my grandmother's detail and I was taken to this URL:
different from yours which started out https://ancestors.familysearch.org/
Was this a discovery page? I didn't know so I searched and found this blog talking about Discovery Pages.
From there I had to find my paternal grandmother's person ID and plug into the URL in the blog.
But like your ancestor's page just about every one in the immediate family had the same surnames.
If we are trying to connect with possible distant relatives with different surnames it's impossible for them to see the relevance by looking just at my immediate family. A person I wanted to share my tree with is related to the Delaines. I'm related to the Delaines but there is no way to share how I connect with anyone from the discovery page.
BTW, I ended up with three different URLs for the same and similar pages of my grandmother.
Being able to share a "visual" tree or section of the tree is what is needed. We are visual beings! Please make it easier to share the actual trees where they can possibly see a relative they recognize.
From the attached tree one could see that the Delaines, Keiths, McDuffies and Valentines were related to my grandmother. This is helpful and could peak their interest.0