The use of two names joined by - or- in German records.
I am working on my Germany Family History. I have come across several names like this Joseph Giese Or Connert MDW8-J78. The fathers name was originally the same but I changed it to Giese, because it seemed to me more commonly used. I put the Connert in the Other information sections. I know that sometimes it was the wife's maiden name, but not always. What do I put for the last name. Should I have "Giese" or should it be "Giese or Connert" All of his children have Giese, his grandfather has Giese and brothers and sisters are mixed.
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Perhaps the FamilySearch article What is a German Farm Name? is relevant
https://www.familysearch.org/blog/en/what-is-a-german-farm-name/
"Sometimes you will find the names in the records identified by the terms “alias”, “vel”, “modo”, “gen.” or “dit”. These refer to the second name that a person may have acquired"
There is also the FS article How should I enter names in Family Tree?
https://www.familysearch.org/help/helpcenter/article/how-to-enter-names-in-family-tree
which has a section :"Put nicknames and other variations in the Other Information section" which includes the wording
- "Name variants caused by naming customs, such as French "dit" names.
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Don't put Or's in the name boxes. Pick whichever name you feel is best and then you are right, the alternate name goes in the other information section. This way if I search for Joseph Giese, MDW8-J78 will come up. If I search for Joseph Connert, MDW8-J78 will come up. But the way it is now with the Or, MDW8-J78 still comes up either name I search for.
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@SharonBurke1 SharonBurke1
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Sharon
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Welcome to the "Community.FamilySearch" Forum ...
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Due to the nature of your 'Question' ...
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I am "Moving" this 'Question' of yours, in the 'Group' being "How to Use FamilySearch Community", in this "Community.FamilySearch" Forum, to the 'Group' being "General Questions", in the Forum; so that, the members of that group can answer/assist you.
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That Group is "Public", which you can join, if you wish.
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As, that 'Group' being "How to Use FamilySearch Community" relates to HOW to USE the "FamilySearch.Community" Forum", rather than for research help/assistance.
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Also ...
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It is good to 'see' that you posted the same 'Question' in the 'Group' being "Germany Genealogy Research" in the Forum.
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As an aside ...
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I am ALSO "Tagging" this 'Question' of yours in to another specific 'Group' being "FamilySearch – Deutschsprachig" [ German speaking ] in the Forum, in the hope that, the members of that group may be able to answer/assist you.
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That Group, is ALSO "Public", which you can join, if you wish.
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Brett
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@FamilySearch – Deutschsprachig
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@SharonBurke1 SharonBurke1
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Sharon
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Very good questions ...
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I just too a look at ...
Joseph GIESE or CONNERT ... [ MDW8-J78 ]
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That is an OLD record from "New.FamilySearch", the forerunner to "Family Tree".
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I also took a look in his "ChangeLog" ...
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2012: as Normal
2015: a "Source" added by 'FamilySearch'
2018 to present: the start of when Users/Patrons start working on the person
And, many "Merges"/"Combines" ...
▬ Joseph GIESE or CONNERT ... [ LJGB-4X6 ]
▬ Joseph GIESE or CONNERT ... [ KCPD-P92 ]
▬ Joseph GIESE ... [ K8J4-4FB ]
▬ Joseph GIESE ... [ MXJS-ZL9 ]
▬ Joseph GIESE ... [ M2D7-JNT ]
▬ Joseph GIESE ... [ MP3Z-YV6 ]
the latter two (x2) which you yourself effected.
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Either, GIESE; or, CONNERT ... that is the 'Question' ...
WHAT 'Family Name' / 'Surname' is the, more likely; or, correct, one.
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I have just put ALL x30 "Sources" in 'Date' Order (and, as Attached).
[ That may help a little ... ]
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It is really a matter of getting access to 'see' the "Images" of his "Christening" Records, to determine his 'Family Name' / 'Surname' ...
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WHY is that "Or" there, interesting?
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I know that this does not help; but, I hope the "Sources" in 'Date' order may help.
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Brett
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The use of two names joined by - or- in German records.
I have come across several names like this Joseph Giese Or Connert MDW8-J78. The fathers name was originally the same but I changed it to Giese, because it seemed to me more commonly used. I put the Connert in the Other information sections. I know that sometimes it was the wife's maiden name, but not always. What do I put for the last name. Should I have "Giese" or should it be "Giese or Connert" All of his children have Giese, his grandfather has Giese and brothers and sisters are mixed.
Brett
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