My brothers in Family search records are not found
Hi, my name is Daniel Marino Canales and I'm member of this holy church.
I can't find my brothers in Family Search. All my parents and Grandparents are there.
I was born in Breña Lima Peru 7/21/1955.
I live in America since 1970.
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If your brothers are living you will not be able to see them. You can only see the entries of living people that you created.
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@DANIEL MARINO If your brothers are living you will be able to find them in the FamilySearch Family Tree. If your brothers are deceased you can add them to the Family Tree.
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@DANIEL MARINO
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Daniel
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DO NOT panic ...
Everything is normal ...
It may not seem like it; but ...
All is well ...
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In "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' ...
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You will NOT 'see' a "Relationship" with your immediate (and, STILL) "Living" Family members, in relation to their unique 'FamilySearch Person Identifier' (PID); as, they are STILL "Living", when they have their OWN 'FamilySearch' Accounts.
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Quickly ...
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You are "Living" and have your own 'FamilySearch' Account; and, exist in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' with your OWN unique 'FamilySearch Person Identifier' (PID), that RESIDES in the YOUR "Private Spaces" of YOUR 'FamilySearch' Account - that ONLY you can 'see'.
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Your "Living" Brothers have their own individual 'FamilySearch' Accounts; and, exists in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' with their OWN individual unique 'FamilySearch Person Identifier' (PID), that RESIDES in the THEIR "Private Spaces" of THEIR individual 'FamilySearch' Account - that ONLY they can individually 'see'.
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Likewise ...
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If, your OTHER ("Living") Family members have their own 'FamilySearch' Accounts; and, exist in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' with her OWN unique 'FamilySearch Person Identifier' (PID); that RESIDES in the THEIR "Private Spaces" of THEIR individual 'FamilySearch' Account - that ONLY they can individually 'see'.
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Now ...
That said ...
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You will ALL need to have your OWN individual personal "Copy" of ALL the VARIOUS "Living" individuals/persons, that connect/link you together, that will RESIDE in your individual "Private Spaces", of your OWN individual 'FamilySearch' Accounts - that ONLY each of you can individually 'see'.
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And, 'Yes', ALL those VARIOUS "Living" individuals/persons that connect/link you together, WILL be "Duplicates" - But, that is OK (and, NECESSARY); and, CANNOT be avoided - due to "Privacy".
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Confused ... you probably will be ...
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Most new (and, some old) Users/Patrons DO NOT understand the basic nature and premise of "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch', when they join in.
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[ Continued in "Part 2"]
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Brett
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@DANIEL MARINO
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[ Continued from "Part 1" ]
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Furthermore ...
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Please let me explain ...
[ Please bear with me ... I am very 'Verbose' ... that is my 'Style' ... ]
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We do not have our OWN "Tree" in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch'.
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We ONLY have "Branches" (ie. Ancestral" lines), that are interconnected, in this SINGLE "One" World "Tree", for all of us, that is "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch'.
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"Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' is NOT like 'On-Line' "Websites" (eg. "Ancestry_com"; or "MyHeritage_com"; or, the like); and/or, 'standalone' personal (computer) programmes (eg, the OLD, now no longer supported, "PAF"; or, "Ancestral Quest"; or, the like).
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We DO NOT have "Private"/"Personal" 'Trees' in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' like other 'On-Line' "Websites"; and/or, 'standalone' personal (computer) programmes.
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We do not even, own; or, manage; and, are NOT even responsible for, the "Deceased" individuals/persons in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch'.
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And, in fact, we do not even, own; or, manage; and, are NOT even responsible for, our OWN "Deceased" Ancestors in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch'.
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We can certainly "Watch"/"Follow" them in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch'; and, address/fix any 'wayward' alterations; but, that is it.
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"Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' is built on a "Open Edit" Platform - hence, why any registered User/Patron can "Edit" (ie. Add, Delete; and/or, Change) ANY "Deceased" individual/person in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch'.
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You can certainly "Merge"/"Combine" any "Deceased" individual/person in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' with another "Deceased" individual/person in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch', regardless of who the User/Patron was that initially created those "Deceased" individuals/persons; as, they DO NOT reside with the User/Patron who initially created them - they are "Public".
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If fact, you can ONLY see "Deceased" individuals/persons in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch'; except, with this 'rider', that you can ALSO only see "Living" individual/person in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' that YOU created; as, they reside in your "Private Spaces".
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No other User/Patron can see ANY "Living" individuals/persons that were created by another User/Patron; as, they ONLY reside in the "Private Spaces" of the User/Patron who created them.
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We CANNOT even see the ACTUAL Record in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' of our IMMEDIATE Family (eg. Spouse; Children; Parents; Siblings; ETC; Etc; etc) if they are "Living"; and, they have their own 'FamilySearch' Account.
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Of course, you can create your "Living" Family members; and, record them in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch'; but, they will ONLY be seen by you:
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▬ You cannot "Share" them with any other User/Patron.
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▬ You cannot "Merge"/'Combine" them with any other "Living" individual/person residing in the "Private Spaces" of another User//Patron.
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There is CURRENTLY no mechanism in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' for Users/Patrons, to "Share"; or, "give permission" to "Share", the "Living" individuals/persons in their own "Private Spaces" with/between other/another User(s)/Patron(s).
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There are a myriad of "Privacy" Laws within the many various Countries and Unions throughout the World - it is a nightmare to negotiate.
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"Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' is used in many Countries and Unions throughout the World; and, as such, must adhere to the myriad of "Privacy" Laws throughout the World.
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Hence, "Privacy" is one of the reasons that we cannot "Share" the "Living" individuals/persons in our own "Private Spaces" - it is NOT the ONLY reason; but, certainly has a bearing on the matter.
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Another factor is that such would have to be 'Coded'/'Programmed' into the Programme that is "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch'.
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'Yes', these "Living" individuals/person in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' WILL, in fact, in many (most) cases will be "Duplicated" - unfortunately a necessary situation that currently cannot be avoided.
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I know that there are "Duplicates" of the "Living" ME - at least, one for my Wife and each of our Children, not to mention my other ("Living") extended Family members.
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Here are some "Knowledge Articles" in 'FamilySearch' in regard to "Private Spaces" and "Living" individuals/persons:
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Who can see my living relatives in Family Tree?
https://www.familysearch.org/help/helpcenter/article/who-can-see-my-living-relatives-in-family-tree
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How does Family Tree protect the privacy of living people?
https://www.familysearch.org/help/helpcenter/article/what-is-a-private-space-in-family-tree
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What Family Tree features are available in my private space?
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Can my living relatives share a Family Tree private space to work together?
https://www.familysearch.org/help/helpcenter/article/share-a-family-tree-private-space-with-family
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Can I transfer my Family Tree private space to another user?
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And ...
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Here is a good place to start, with how things work in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' (and, other programmes as well):
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Overview
'FamilySearch'
"Family Tree"
https://www.familysearch.org/tree/overview
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Getting Started with Family History
Here are the main things you need to know as you get started
https://www.familysearch.org/home/etb_gettingstarted
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How to Use the Family Tree
https://www.familysearch.org/blog/en/how-to-use-family-tree/
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What is The Family History Guide?
https://media.familysearch.org/what-is-the-family-history-guide/
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The Family History Guide
Introduction
About The Family History Guide
https://www.thefhguide.com/introduction.html
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The Family History Guide
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I hope this helps.
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Brett
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Please clarify if your brothers are living or deceased
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FamilySearch does not have everyone recorded in its database.
But either way (alive or deceased) - you can add them to your view of the family tree - if they are not showing. Let us know if you need more detail.
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FamilySearch only adds live people to FamilyTree if you add the person with no death date. You can see these live people you have added, but, no one else on FamilySearch can see them when searched for by them. Also, no Memories can be added for people with no death date, including yourself, wife, children, grandchildren, siblings parents, etc. As soon as a death date and location is added for a person, FamilySearch starts showing entries for them with Memories. One consequence is that there can be duplicate entries for a person. This means using messaging to connect with the persons who added them to see which entry with a death date should be the primary one and the other(s) merged into it or outright deleted.
If you become aware of a person who has died recently and you are not closely related, wait a few days to work on your entry to give the close family member(s) a chance to update entries they may have added. I generally wait a week or so, to allow the deceased family time to handle death, funeral and burial issues. If you use RootsMagic, or some other standalone family history program and/or Ancestry, MyHeritage, etc., you can update a deceased person's death and burial information immediately as they use your personal tree that you can update.
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