Desire Private FS Tree
I would hope and wish for FS private trees that nobody could change.
FS could copy my tree to their site for the one family tree and still allow me to look at the FS tree for hints.
It would be nice if it didn’t make so many changes without having video step by step reviewable instructions.
I would be gladly pay to get a private FS tree?
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Juli said: If you want a private tree, use a site that does private trees, such as MyHeritage or Ancestry. The former will even gladly take your money to let you see what you've put on FS. (Ancestry puts the paywalls too soon for me to know whether they sell FS FT data. I know they sell index entries and images that come from FS, though.)0
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Paul said: Larron
You already raised this (2 years ago) under thread at https://getsatisfaction.com/familysea....
Tom Huber's comments there, and Juli's above, accurately address the position.0 -
Tom Huber said: Your desire for a private tree is covered by using a personal family tree management program that can interface with FamilySearch.
There are a number of programs in the Solutions Gallery, but only three of them (Ancestral Quest, Legacy, and Roots Magic) have the ability to download your ancestral lines to a fresh database.
Aside from the private tree sites, the real answer to your needs is your own personal tree and database on your local computer. Roots Magic can support a mobile tree and operate from a portable USB device.
While Ancestral Quest should be able to do this, the current design will record its initialization to the local computer and that does not work well if the local computer already has the program installed.
I don't know the details about Legacy and its portability capabilities.
The three that I have mentioned are fully certified programs. The rest lack full certification and while they can often read FS Family Tree, the ability to update the tree is lacking.0 -
Jeff Wiseman said: Also, FS is not a for profit organization since it is based totally on supporting the theology of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. Allowing everyone to have their own personal trees would increase the need for physical resources in the number of servers, memory, and backup storage very substantially--that's why you have to pay for the privilege at for profit sites that support this structure and provide you with all of the personal storage space that you need.
Regardless of how many people might be willing to pay for it, I don't think that the Church wants to be selling services of any kind.0 -
Adrian Bruce said: You can load your tree to one of the Genealogies under Search / Genealogies - that would be private in the sense that no-one else can update it. Including yourself, I believe. But those are completely separate from the massive, open-edit tree, so would not get any hints. Believe me, I share anyone's pain at having "their" data trampled on but the only way that you can do it is to have something physically separate, such as a database on your own PC that can be synched in some manner under your control, as Tom suggests.
FS are just not going to change the nature of the beast now, especially when people can use personal databases on their own PCs that can sync in some fashion - which satisfies the independent requirement, I believe.0 -
Don M Thomas said: I have accepted the open edit concept of the FamilySearch "Family Tree," but like Larron Campbell will always wish and dream the database was a locked private tree or database, and also an open edit database. https://getsatisfaction.com/familysea...1
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A van Helsdingen said: There are various software and websites that allow you to build a personal tree.
FamilySearch allows Latter Day Saints to "synchronise" their family tree on the FSFT with MyHeritage or Ancestry.com. If you don't have a family tree on those websites the synchroniser will automatically generate one for you. If you then cancel the synchroniser after doing that, you have created for yourself a personal tree that no-one else can edit.
You can also submit a GEDCOM to the "Genealogies" section of the website. This is read-only. Others can search these trees and contact you if they wish, but cannot edit.0 -
Tom Huber said: The uploader can delete and then upload a new version of their tree to Genealogies. But no, it cannot be edited.
I don't know quickly a newly uploaded tree becomes searchable, but they can be searched.
"Genealogies" is basically the successor to the old CD-based Ancestral File and CD-based Pedigree Resource File collections.0 -
I believe it would be in the best interest of the missions and purposes of The Church led by Jesus Christ, to help people not to have quarrels and disputes, if FamilySearch were to have one large public tree and, for each user, a private tree which one could use to do their own private research. I have Legacy 9.0 software and it just doesn't feel as easy to use or as user-friendly as familysearch. org. Downloading a familysearch tree to Legacy doesn't help, as people keep changing that tree. I would like sources to become more important and vital, but if I am the only one who believes in the sources I find being the correct ones and others keep deleting everything and merging things which should not be merged, it begs contention. Ancestry, MyHeritage, and FindmyPast are nice, but I like the formatting of familysearch in all ways but this one. I just want familysearch to have private tree options.
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@MrsLCJ I tend to agree with this idea but not for the entire Tree - only for the first 6/7 generations after an open-edit period (which we've had for the past decade now). After 6/7 generations I'm ok with it being public - because the records are so sparse. How many generations would you think should be private?
The Church of Jesus Christ also primarily supports agency - the concept of people freely choosing agreement or disagreement - come what may.
Obviously if duplicate trees were created by users then FamilySearch could suggest Family Group or merging - or perhaps even do so in the background (as long as users consent to those terms). There are the private Community trees in the Genealogies section which allow you submit a GEDCOM of your work - which is read-only. So there is that option to submit a tree that doesn't change or search for those. I also favor moving in the direction of read-only profiles - those sufficiently proven shouldn't be changeable - and I do appreciate FamilySearch's steps taken toward that goal.
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