Life Sketch indicator
Thanks for considering.
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Adrian Bruce said: Totally agree - this thread https://getsatisfaction.com/familysea... has suggestions on it for what the indicators might look like.0
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joe martel said: I'm not understanding. The caret on the left is "sticky". Whatever state you have it in is retained as you move through each Person.
Perhaps you are suggesting it should be open by default the first time you use the product?0 -
Juli said: The Life Sketch should not be the first thing one sees on a profile. By pushing the Vitals section down, it obscures the data that should actually be first. Therefore, I and many others keep it closed by default, and generally wish that it would Go Away Until Needed.
However, keeping the section closed has an undesired side effect: if someone writes something in a Life Sketch, we can't tell it's there. A simple gray dot or something next to the closed section's label would mitigate this problem.0 -
Adrian Bruce said: Exactly, Juli. The proposal in the thread that I raised and linked to above, worked on the idea that many of us don't have enough glass to leave the Life Sketch open, especially given the number of Sketches that contain anything. But this means that on those rare occasions that there is something useful in a Life Sketch, we miss it. Hence the desire for an indicator by the side of the LS heading that tells us there is something there, without taking up any more real estate on the glass than a closed LS.
(My own favourite on that thread, was a number like the number of Sources etc. Yes, it would never go above 1 if nonzero but it uses an existing concept)
Joleen should confirm that that is what she wants - it's what I read her idea as, but I might be suffering from confirmation bias.0 -
joe martel said: I get it. An indicator like the bubbles that says there's actually something there. That's a good idea.1
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I guess I'm the odd man out, but I liked the Life Sketch just where it was. Yes some people put useless or redundant information there. But some entries are really exceptional and it is those I want to read before going on to the vitals. Just my preference.
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My suggestion is to have an obvious place to post notes you need people to see before they merge individuals or make other changes people are prone to make without realizing what they are doing -- often because they don't take time to read the sources and study the families of people before they merge them.
The Life Sketch wasn't intended for this purpose, but I liked it where it was as a highly visible place to post a warning note to people who might re-merge that person with one of my relatives who has the same or similar name after I spent a few days separating them and their children. I hoped they would look at it. Few look at Discussions or Collaboration. I daresay many never look at the Person page before they decide to merge. I reasoned that if someone related to that person knew him well enough to post anything like a life summary about him or her, they could remove my note if they desired, or they might be glad for it.
I also like it for the purpose it was intended right up top where if something is posted I can see and decide if it is the person I think it might be. I always understood it was a place for a brief timeline summary in sentences, not the life history narrative you would write in Memories. As I recall you can see the first two or three lines if anything is written there in the old format.
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Having Life Sketch at the bottom is a huge problem. Why? FamilySearch Family Tree, being a Collaborative tree, is subject to many mistakes being entered in daily. Those ancestors that have common names keep getting merged into people, even clear across the ocean, with the same name. After many calls to FS Tech Support, I was told to put the reasons people should not merge my ancestor with other people with the same name, into Life Sketch. It worked!!!! It worked because on the merge screen, the Life Sketch showed at the top, and people actually saw it and read it! Amazing!
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Please see these newer disccussions.
https://community.familysearch.org/en/discussion/124884/life-sketch-miss-used-to-warn-people
https://community.familysearch.org/en/discussion/128844/suggestion-for-the-collaborate-section
https://community.familysearch.org/en/discussion/126177/placement-of-life-sketch
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I prefer the Life Sketch at the top, but also agree that a life sketch, i.e. bio should go in memories. I like the idea to have a check mark to indicate there is a life sketch. And the message at the top be more of a Collaborate/Note to inform/alert people that there may be more than one person with the same name or a unique circumstance related to the person. For example, my grandfather changed his name from what was given on Baptism Record. It is very frustrating with the one tree concept to have people merged those who should not be. If everyone would give a reason for making a change, or their rational for making changes like they are suppose to it would help prevent a lot of frustration or annoyance between FS users.
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@Deanna K Baker Go check out the new Detail page. We now have the ability to mark one note as an Alert note which places a notice just under the header to check the note. Also, there is a side pod that lists up to three of the notes on a person to make sure people see there are notes. The top note in that box is always the Alert note if there is one.
Here I was just fiddling with my own detail page to test out this new feature:
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