Why does green no longer mean available to reserve?

LegacyUser

Tom J. McVey said: I can't understand at all why ordinances that need reserved and completed appear green and ordinances already reserved and shared appear green. Yes, both need to be taken to the temple, but with temples closed the urgency to finish the temple work has been taken away so why would I take the reservation from another person who has already shared it with the temple. Green temples used to motivate me to go look and see what I can do to get the work reserved and done. Now it's a disincentive to go and see because over 50% of the time someone else has already reserved and shared the work. Go back to pink on shared with the temple and brown for those shared and printed. Don't go out there and tell me about colorblind patrons, there are more not colorblind.

LegacyUser

Tom Huber said: The key is in Jim Greene's comment

We are no longer in a position where names submitted to the temple is more important than to have the ordinances performed. Therefore, while not changing the meaning we are changing the emphasis of the green temple. We need to think of it as "This ordinance is available for temple work to be performed." It does not mean "This ordinance is ready to be requested/reserved or submitted/shared with the temple."

LegacyUser

Tom J. McVey said: I guess I can understand that but still why both green? Give us green for names reserved and shared and another color for names ready to reserve. I try and use the task function on the front page of FamilySearch and when I go there my tasks are then to get names, already shared with the temple and take them to the temple. Well, I haven't been able to do that for four months now and it's liable to continue for a number of months more. There will be some patrons who reserve hundreds of already shared with the temple names and they don't stand a chance of getting that work done. They just don't know what they've reserved.

LegacyUser

Tom Huber said: As Jim wrote, "This ordinance is available for temple work to be performed." Green has always meant "available" and now that we can "grab and go" with ordinances that have been shared with the temples, it applies equally to those ordinances that have been shared with the temple. Note that the Ordinances Ready has, from when it was first introduced, saw temple-shared ordinances as "green", meaning they could be temporarily reserved and taken to the temple.

With our ability to now pull temple-shared ordinances directly we can also temporarily reserve a temple-shared ordinance just like Ordinances Ready, only we are not limited in what ordinances we pull (O.R. was limited to the specified ordinances and sex of the person running the feature.)

The Orange icon means that there are some issues with respect to the profile that need to be resolved as far as vicarious ordinances are concerned.

It has been suggested that two different shades of green be used with one shade indicating that one or more ordinances are not reserved, but available and the other indicating that all available ordinances have been shared with the temple. I don't know whether that will be adopted or not.

Consider that we members are the only ones that can see the temple icons, but that also non-members also do descendancy research, but without any visible aid.

LegacyUser

Tom J. McVey said: I agree with all you've said with one exception. Under Ordinances Ready, you knew what you were getting because you went there to get names needing whatever ordinance/s you wanted to perform that visit to the temple with limits on gender and quantity depending on the ordinance you wanted to perform...a wonderful blessing for all...proxy, submitter, others sharing names and most importantly the deceased person for whom you were doing the work.

Today, you can come across them in the normal course of research and mistakenly reserve them, and not read the blue (computer) or yellow (cell phone) message that comes up telling that you've reserved ordinances already reserved and shared with the temple system. Could not agree more...blessing shared all around!!!

Still confusing with both the same color. No doubt in my mind that you, Jim and I want the same result...work done for our ancestors and the new way of getting the names sure does move that along.

We won't know until temples open back up what impact this will have on work done in the temple. I'm in a leadership role in a temple and we monitor family file vs shared family file to determine how many ordinances patrons can do in B/C, I and SP/SS sessions. I presume those names picked up via the above described method will appear to us in the temple as family file when in fact they came from shared family file. Just like Ordinances Ready obtained names. Our worry, not others, but we do use the data.

Thanks for your honest responses! Tom

LegacyUser

FamilySearch Moderator said: That message is there so that you realize you only have 90-days to perform the ordinance (once the temples reopen). It was not meant to tell you that you shouldn't reserve it. The ordinances are available, please go do them, but you can't hold them for two years like the others. The good news is that we are currently considering a way to distinguish 90-day and two-year reservations. Stay tuned.