BUG in source attachment - please be patient, this is a bit tough to explain
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Justin Masters said: (eyes glazed over)
Yes, I can understand it being seen as ONE source...0 -
Justin Masters said: True...0
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Justin Masters said: Ah, VERY good point! I did happen to see that in another source I added today!0
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Jessie Hearle said: Jeff, the attach to Family Tree button is ALWAYS disabled for INDEXED images.
You only have the option to add to source box.0 -
Jeff Wiseman said: That's great to know Jessie, Thanks! I do wonder though if you have an indexed image that you are looking at and you do an Add to Source Box, will you get a citation to the index source or to the image source? If it always copied a citation to the INDEX into the source box, that would be a real nuisance (the source box is far more useful for non-indexed citations)0
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Justin Masters said: Ditton on thanks for explaining why that button is disabled. (or rather WHEN) I'd go there sometimes (browsing images) and wondered how I was supposed to attach that image without having to manually create a source.
I suppose I could try to search (through records) to see if I could find the desired person with enough specificity to find that record link, and then attach that through source linker.0 -
Juli said: We use the word "source" rather broadly and loosely. Nine times out of ten, what we actually mean by it is source citation: a pointer to where we found some information. There are various types of citations possible on FS, and they can be grouped in various ways, but the categorization relevant to this discussion is by attachment.
1. Single-point index citations.
2. Single-point image or offsite citations.
3. Multi-point linked image citations.
Type 1 citations are created using Source Linker, and they are what FamilySearch treats as primary: if an image has any associated index entries, then Type 2 and 3 are disabled or made difficult. These citations are intended to establish a one-to-one relationship between an indexed name and a Family Tree profile. (One name, one profile.)
Type 2 citations are created "longhand", either individually or by copying a citation to one's source box. The copy is independent of the original: correcting one citation does not correct the other.
Type 3 is multiple instances of the same citation, where editing one instance changes the citation in all places it occurs. Such linked sets can be created using the Attach to Family Tree button on images with no associated index entries, and/or using the Add to My Source Box checkbox at initial source citation entry. After a source citation has already been created, you can only add another instance of it if you remembered that checkbox. (If someone else created the linked set, you cannot enlarge the set.)
There is a major problem with this setup: it treats the index entry as if it were some sort of magical Fact -- but index entries are not facts. Indexes are very often wrong, sometimes to the point where they're essentially fiction, and even if they're not wrong, they're very seldom complete. Remember, indexes are made to be finding aids, not full transcriptions. This means that if a marriage record has been indexed, you have to go through extra contortions to attach it to the witnesses. Another example is the one that started this thread: you can't easily attach the first page of the probate record to everyone mentioned, no matter how convenient that would be. (No, the heirs are not all mentioned on that first image, but it'd make a better generic attachment point than the blank envelope on the second image.)0
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