Better Photos

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Robert Johnson said: Im having a problem with adding a portrait of my Mom I cut down its size and the app just makes it bigger We need more control of photos to br placed in our tree
This is the photo I am trying to place but it keeps getting enlarged and It gets too big for the frame ...we need better control for photo placement and the all around look of them like a photo editor that works with the family tree placement

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Beth Ann Wiseman said: Can you post the PID for your Mom and I'll go take a look?

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Tom Huber said: I don't know where you pulled the photo from, but it appears that it may be part of a larger photo. Trimming the photo and loading that to the memory is never a good idea. You'll be better off using uploading the entire photo to your memory gallery and then using the portrait tool to size and center the image of the person.The following picture is about 3-1/2 by 5-1/2 inches at 600 dpi.


I have previously taken care of the portrait for both the husband and wife (by grandparents). Here is what the portrait editor looks like:



If the photograph was not scanned at full size with a dpi of 600, the scanned size might have needed to be adjusted before I uploaded it. (I use irfanview, a free image editing tool).

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Tom Huber said: What I'm saying is that by cutting down the size, you've created a bit of a problem for the system. The image you are attempting to load has a dpi of 72 (which is why the image is fuzzy), and measures a little over 3/4 (.83) by about 1-1/2 (1.57) inches in size.

To properly display in the portrait, the system has to adjust the size. The display size of the portrait is within a 2-1/2 by 2-1/2 inch square, which is why the system has to make the image larger for you.

Now in this forum, the image that I posted was adjusted to 72 dpi, which is the display size of the monitor I am using. The slider set up the correct size requirements for the portrait, but it started with an image that was large enough so that it would work.

When the uploaded image is too small, it has to adjust the size of the image so that the slider can work properly.

With some portraits, I have pulled the image from a printed source (typically a newspaper clipping, and those are very hard to properly adjust, because they are usually just at the lower size limit. In most cases, I try to find a photograph from another source and with todays newspaper digitization programs by various companies, I have been able to come up with a few satisfactory portraits, but certainly not all of them.

Since this is your mother that you are working with, you should be able to scan and original photograph and upload it to your memory gallery, then do what I did and use the portrait tool to center her face in the portrait. Just make sure the original photo is large enough in terms of dpi (300 will works nicely, but I like scanning old photographs at 600 dpi to capture all the detail in the actual photograph) so that you don't have to work with what amounts to being a thumbnail (like those in many obituaries).

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Tom Huber said: By the way, I have run into photographs that were too large and so had to resize them accordingly. In the example above, I used a photograph that was those dimensions.

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Robert Johnson said: PID # is 9JCW-B2P Thank you

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Robert Johnson said: thank you unfortunately I cannot just scan the photo in its a photo taken out of a photo by cropping it and enlarging it to a half decent size for viewing & I have no other photos of my mom as nobody in my family if they have will share them ...So Im kind of stuck with what I have .. But thank you for your help

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Robert Johnson said: Here is the original picture That I got my moms picture from if that helps any

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Tom Huber said: I'll see what I can do with the photo. It is on an angled board (with respect to the camera), so I'm going to have to play with it a bit to get it back in the correct perspective. Besides Irfanview, I also use GIMP, which is an open source image editor, similar to some of the expensive products.

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Tom Huber said: It took manipulating the photo's perspective with GIMP and then using irfanview to add a white border.

The system wants to size the photo according to the border. If it will not fit within the portrait circle, it will increase the size of the image (I was wrong in my original analysis).

After fixing the image (it really is a thumbnail), I uploaded it to the person you provided the ID for. Then I realized what the system was doing, so deleted that image and went back and used irfanview to add a border. This I uploaded and was able to center into the portrait area.

The image with the border is now in your mother's memories. You can download it and do whatever you want with it. If you get a better photograph, you certainly can replace both the memory and the portrait. All relinquish all rights to the image I uploaded to you.

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Tom Huber said:

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Tom Huber said: Had I wanted to add more of her in the portrait, I could have added even more white border, and that would have allowed me to post the entire image, including the title. (I'm not sure where that got added, but it must have been coded in the image that I downloaded from your photograph of the display.

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Tom Huber said: Sometimes, it takes me several tries to get it right (as it did with your mother's image). Changing the perspective was the easy part. Sizing and adding border is what took a bit more time.

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Robert Johnson said: very nice TY

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Beth Ann Wiseman said: I just got back to this thread and was going to investigate this morning and discovered that Tom had provided an excellent solution, taking the original photo, enhancing it and making it the appropriate size to create a portrait.

That's what I love about this community. Thanks for caring enough to help.

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Robert Johnson said: I Thank everyone for their help on this
It was my first time trying to place a photo in the app and it threw me off when it wouldn't size

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Robert Johnson said: Thank you