New temple submission colors are more confusing than before

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Cherie Ailene Morgan said: The new ordinance colors are not helpful. When we are on an individual's page, click on their name and see the green boxes, there is now not a distinction between work that needs to be submitted to the temple and work that has already been submitted to the temple. This created confusion and extra steps by having to double check ordinance submission that can't be verified by simply clicking on their name. Also, this new system is giving error messages when I first click on the 'submit' button for the ordinances. I then have to refresh the page after submitting the work and again after sharing the work. We shouldn't have to refresh the page after every submission. But there is further confusion because the blue color is also used for two different reasons. Blue now means that I have requested the work, but there is no differentiation for work I have requested and work I have submitted to the temple. I'm sure someone was trying to make things easier, but they have only succeeded in making it more difficult to see exactly what needs to be submitted and what needs to be shared. There was nothing wrong with the old color codes and submission process.

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Eric J. said: Agreed, very poor decision

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Tom Huber said: I find the four colors make eminent sense -- after all, we are concerned only about the reservations we make for our ancestral lines and related spouses of our relatives.

Green for request,
Blue for In Progress.

Gray for completed and
Yellow/amber for Not available (Cannot Request).

In addition, we can display either My Reservations or Shared.

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Cherie Ailene Morgan said: No, they don't make 'eminent' sense.

Green = hasn't been submitted AND someone else has already submitted - there needs to be distinction between the two

Blue = I have requested the name AND I have submitted the name to the temple - there needs to be distinction between the two

Using the same color for TWO different reasons is confusing and creates more work.

Example #1: When I see green on a person's name, I click the Ordinances tab to submit their name. Only now to find that someone else has already submitted it. So I took an extra step that I didn't have to.

This may not seem significant, but when I spend the majority of my day working on this site, extra page clicks just adds to my work load.

Example #2: Now when I see blue on the Ordinance tab, I don't know at a glance if I have only requested the name, or if I have already submitted the name to the temple. I can't tell at a glance if I forgot the second step.

The entire reason for color coding is to show distinction between different levels of work that has been done or needs to be done. That has been erased with this new policy.

If the justification for doing this is that text has been added below the ordinances, then there is not a true purpose for having the color coding. Why use colors to clarify ordinances, if we only have to keep digging to double check the text? This doesn't make any sense.

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Cherie Ailene Morgan said: And if the programmers still think this is such a great idea, I suggest you create a poll to your users and let us decide if this works best for us, as we are the ones who are using it.

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Eric J. said: Preach!
This might be fine and dandy for the beginner, but for those who are spending endless hours submitting thousands upon thousands of names....which group would be better to listen to?

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Eric J. said: For #1, if you request something that's already been submitted to the temple file, it then forces you to print, you can't resubmit it all to the temple file...several additional steps that waste time.
For #2, agreed, it forces you to read every ordinance and make sure it actually did submit...more time wasted.
And no, I don't think "eminent" means what he thinks it means.

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D. Llewelyn said: Agreed.

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Tom Huber said: Green means just one thing: the ordinance is available for anyone to pull, print, and take to the temple.

Blue means just one thing: the ordinance is not available for anyone to reserve. Only the person holding the active reservation can print and take the ordinance to the temple.

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Cherie Ailene Morgan said: No. It. Does. Not.

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JimGreene said: Folks, please let's end this thread, it is going to the anger zone and we want to avoid that on our forums. We have heard your replies and your concerns. We are taking notes. We missed some things and will be discussing prudent courses of action to take.

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D. Llewelyn said: Thanks, Jim! We appreciate you and your team listening to everyone's feedback.

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Eric J. said: Hopefully part of those notes is something to the effect of "send surveys out to those who use Family Search very frequently to see how potential changes would impact them, and if it's something everyone as a whole would like, or if it's actually not beneficial at all.

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D. Llewelyn said: I like the survey idea.

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Melissa L -dl- said: If we have to keep this new color code can you at least make it so that when I hoover over the ordinances on the person page it doesn't just say available for request - it also tells me if someone else has shared it with the temple. It was much easier with the red color to tell it had been shared. I understand making it available for those who want to do those "used to be red" names, but can't we make it so they can request to do them and still have them be red until someone does that? That way unless I have a very specific desire to do the work that someone else has already shared with the temple I don't waste time going to every member of a families person page and ordinance page only to discover that yes they were all green, but they had all been shared with the temple by someone else and that is what I would have done with them myself.
While I understand trying to make it simpler, this system waste a lot of my limited research time because I can no longer tell at a quick glance what is going on with the temple work.