How to access sources from the change log?

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Alahärmä said: Now tell me how to open the sources that have been detached from this person:
https://www.familysearch.org/tree/per...

Source Detached

Source Title
Matt Lahti in entry for Joseph E. Mcdermott and Ellen Lahti, "Montana, County Marriages, 1865-1950"
May 7, 2020

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Source Detached

Source Title
Matt Lahti in entry for Ellen Lahti, "Montana, County Births and Deaths, 1840-2004"
May 7, 2020

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Source Detached

Source Title
Matt Lahte in entry for Adam Gebroski and Ellen Lahte, "Montana, County Marriages, 1865-1950"
Reason This Information Is Correct
wrong parent
May 7, 2020

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Tom Huber said: I don't know of any way to do that (link to the source from the change log), even for attached sources, but they are on the source page and you can have the source page for the person open in its own browser tab or window.

When a source is detached, it is gone. If the source was detached within the past several months, you can open the beta site and find the same profile there. At that point, you can see the source on the source page. (https://beta.familysearch.org/)

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Tom Huber said: FamilySearch needs to add the link to the source to the new source log feature.

Unfortunately, there is a related problem. All sources linked by FamilySearch are person-centric. When the source is detached, that link is lost.

It is a problem associated with the way FamilySearch links sources, which would not be a problem if FS used source-centric sources (the titles can be person-centric, but not the source citation -- there has been at least one discussion thread about the way sources are handled by FS)

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gasmodels said: actually if it was not attached at the time the beta site data was configured you will not see it there. so say it was attached a month ago and then another user detached the source. You have no way to find the source and verify the actions were appropriate. I agree with the original poster - lack of information in the change log on sources is a real issue. There is no way to look at any source unless it is currently attached to the record. The information provided is essentially on a name and the title of the collection. I think there should be some revision that allows access to the specific source that was detached.

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Tom Huber said: I did some more exploring on this particular person.

Some additional research needs to be done for Matt Lahti. It is claimed he died in 1909 but there is no source to support the death date. The biggest problem is the 1944 marriage in Montana, because it lists Matt and his wife and while the daughter was 21 at the time, I'm wondering why the wife's maiden name is the same for Matt in Family Tree.

The three detached records include the hinted record that you dismissed, which you can get to by opening the full page with Show All under Research Help. Yes, the dates do not line up, but what is worse is that there are no sources for Matti's birth and death dates.

That particular record raises all sorts of flags for me, so it is little wonder that you want to be able to get back to the sources that were attached and then detached.

The bigger problem is where did the birth and death dates come from for Matti? Also, there may be a duplicate for Matt and his wife (which I saw when I used the Find Similar People feature under tools.

I think I would start looking for census enumerations for Matt Lahti, including up to the 1940 enumeration. The reason has more to do with the lack of birth and death sources than anything else on Matt Lahti's profile. Even a grave stone would help.

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Gordon Collett said: Going back to the issue of how to access detached sources from the Change Log, it looks like that will have to wait until they put the full citation, which includes the link, in the Change Log. I hope that won't be too long.

In the meantime, it looks like all that can be done is to scroll down the change log to where the source was originally attached and use the link there to restore the source. Then you can see it again in sources to evaluate it.

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gasmodels said: good idea Gordon but is quite a chore if there have been multiple merges to find where it was added.

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Robert Wren said: It appears that on the (new) Change Log the "Filter" function will show the Source changes - as well as a multitude of other items.

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However it would be VERY helpful if a highlight to actual listing could be added!! There are 10 major items & 50 or so subheadings.

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This url may show the filter selection for "Sources" per the original post:
https://www.familysearch.org/tree/per...

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Tom Huber said: The filter function from the change log, when it is opened from the details page for a profile, works nicely, The changes for that filtered entry appear in chronological order.

But if one opens the change log from the edit screen for a fact or event, there is a possibility that the change log will attempt to load, but fail (with certain OS/Browser combination, and display the pedigree chart, instead for the last set default person.

This may be a scaling issue with respect to opening the change log from an edit screen. I've worked with Pieter Claesen 9312-XFX, which has a lot of changes and the first time in this session, the system looked like it was going to be able to load the filtered log. However, it failed and displayed the pedigree chart instead.

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Tom Huber said: This does not resolve the original problem. Once a source is detached, the change log shows the action, but fails to provide a link to the source.

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Paul said: Robert

Off-topic, but if you were trying to upload an image using the latest version of Chrome, this will be the problem. I have had to install another browser (Firefox) to enable me to post images on this forum.

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Alahärmä said: I'm not sure if Matt ever immigrated to the States. I found the family in Finnish records.

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Tom Huber said: I might agree with you but I find it very strange that he was married to the same woman in marriage records from Montana about a child. Definitely more research is going to be needed.

I would start with the U.S. Census records where the child would be recorded with her parents and check to see the parents' place of birth.