HUGE number of incorrect Record Hints on Scandinavians in the tree

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joe martel said: Ok. I must have misunderstood you. You are saying there were Hints there before, not Attached Sources. I didn't see any Sources Attached to that PID. Hints is a whole other situation. Those can disappear if the PID changes enough that it no longer matches that Record well enough, or that Record gets Attached to a different PID.

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Dale Hein said: Well, in the case of that Samuel Johansson, nothing matched his page before the merge -- only his name. The place was different (not even the same county) in all 7 hints, the wife's name was different, of the 7 birth records, he only had one child with the same first name. The other 6 weren't on his page at all. And after the merge, none of those facts changed. He had the same wives, same children and the place didn't change anywhere. So if the hints were there before the merge, there was no reason for them to not be there after the merge. All the data on his page was the same. I would never merge two people with different names, wives, children, and lived in different places.

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joe martel said: I was referring to LH5T-97V. If I remember right hints aren't recalculated instantly when the PID conclusions change, like a Merge. So maybe that why you don't see the hints there anymore.

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Dale Hein said: Right, Samuel Johansson, LH5T-97V. That's the one who had 7 hints, all of which were wrong. He still has the same ID as before the merge. Maybe you're right. It's been over 24 hours. We'll see.

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Brian Jensen said: Record Hints will be updated within minutes of any Family Tree Person changes. And adding new relationships really helps our Hinting engine calculate accurate Hints and I can see that "Stina Larsen" was added as a wife on the 8th. It also helps that "Stina" is a unique name.

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Dale Hein said: Stina Larsen and Stina Larsdotter are the name really. And I didn't add her. I merged the duplicate I found for her and kept the Larsdotter in the merge because I know from all the Swedish records I have searched over the years that Larsdotter is more accurate. But she was there when I first went to Samuel Johansson's page the other day. So she wasn't "added." And Stina is a very common name in my Swedish lines. I just found 30 of them in my Roots Magic, so that's just my direct lines and their children.

Point is there was no reason for those Record Hints to disappear after those merges. None of the people or data on those pages changed at all. Other than the Stina that was already there changing from Larsen to Larsdotter. I mean all 7 of them should never have been there in the first place, but nothing I did in those merges helped them disappear. I don't know the inner workings of computers and websites, but I know genealogy and I know Family Tree, and those Record Hints do more harm than good.

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Dale Hein said: Just letting you know about another bad Record Hint. According to her page in Family Tree and my own records, Anna Margrethe Pedersdatter died in 1828, so she couldn't have been the mother of a child born in 1830. And she was born, married and died in Ringkobing, Denmark. There is no mention of any other county on hers, her husband's, her one child's or her parents' pages, and definitely not Praesto County anywhere. And there is no child Niels Nielsen on her page. So why is this Record Hint there? It will be declared Not a Match by the time anybody sees it, so you'd have to look in the Changes.

https://www.familysearch.org/tree/per...

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Dale Hein said: And here is a possible duplicate on the same page. Fortunately, anybody that might have attached it won't be able to because they are the opposite sex! So at least I don't have to worry about that happening.

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Dale Hein said: The 1930 census came up as a Record Hint for a woman who died in 1835. Born in 1727, which doesn't make sense either, but it's just one more reason this Record Hint should never have been on her page. Also Mary Ann Cash was born in Maryland. The one on the 1930 census with a totally different last name (Cadden) was born in Ireland. The first name, Mary, is the only thing that is the same! I wonder how many Mary's lived in Maryland between 1727 and 1930.

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Dale Hein said: It's been a long time since I posted on this topic. I just watch for Record Hints in my lines constantly so I can catch them before anyone else who might attach an incorrect one and add all new [incorrect] family members to my ancestors. But I had to tell everybody who has been complaining about the bad Record Hints for a very long time what FamilySearch is doing to help with the problem! I just found out about this. So they set up a program, one of many in Get Involved, in which they are asking for volunteers to do "Label Matching." You'd have to go there yourself for details, but basically we would be helping train the system to be more correct with the Record Hints put on ancestors' pages. This is GREAT! So we should all "Get Involved" now that FamilySearch is really trying to correct this huge problem. It's also Possible Duplicates they are trying to make better. Possible Duplicates are also in the "Label Matching" effort. So here is the link. https://www.familysearch.org/blog/en/... They're finally trying to solve this problem, so let's help them!