I am trying to merge some ids for same persons in another FS tree but when enter id from her tree to
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@Joyce Michel If you are trying to merge accounts of a living person it does not work. There are privacy issues that block that from happening. So, for instance, you and your cousin each need to add accounts of your living grandparents.
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Thx so much Patricia for the answer. I suspected that was the reason couldn’t merge living persons ids.
My 4th cousin added duplicate living persons to our shared family tree cause she couldn’t access their profiles in my tree to add to her tree. I added all her living/deceased family to my tree but I can’t view the living duplicate persons ids she added in my tree. Aren’t our trees a shared/merged tree? Can’t we both add living members to the tree?
I am so confused!!! Lol
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@Joyce Michel
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Joyce
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Following on from 'Patricia' ...
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This may help ... just expanding ...
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Basically, you and your Cousin have to "Build" a "Bridge" of the "Living" individuals/persons that connect/link you together, in your respective 'FamilySearch' Accounts ...
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Once, you have built that bridge of the "Living"; then, when you come to your FIRST Common "Deceased" Ancestor, your "Ancestral" lines will connect/link together into one ...
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I hope this helps.
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Brett
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@Joyce Michel
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Joyce
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Furthermore
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Most new (and, some old) Users/Patrons DO NOT understand the basic nature and premise of "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch', when they join in.
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Please let me explain ...
[ And, please bear with me; as, I am VERY 'Verbose' ... ]
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We do not have our OWN "Tree" in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch'.
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We ONLY have "Branches" (ie. Ancestral" lines), that are interconnected, in this SINGLE "One" World "Tree", for all of us, that is "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch'.
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"Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' is NOT like 'On-Line' "Websites" (eg. "Ancestry_com"; or "MyHeritage_com"; or, the like); and/or, 'standalone' personal (computer) programmes (eg, the OLD, now no longer supported, "PAF"; or, "Ancestral Quest"; or, the like).
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We DO NOT have "Private"/"Personal" 'Trees' in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' like other 'On-Line' "Websites"; and/or, 'standalone' personal (computer) programmes.
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We do not even, own; or, manage; and, are NOT even responsible for, the "Deceased" individuals/persons in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch'.
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"Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' is built on a "Open Edit" Platform - hence, why any registered User/Patron can "Edit" (ie. Add, Delete; and/or, Change) ANY "Deceased" individual/person in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch'.
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You can certainly "Merge"/"Combine" any "Deceased" individual/person in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' with another "Deceased" individual/person in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch', regardless of who the User/Patron was that initially created those "Deceased" individuals/persons; as, they DO NOT reside with the User/Patron who initially created them - they are "Public".
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If fact, you can ONLY see "Deceased" individuals/persons in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch'; except, with this 'rider', that you can ALSO only see "Living" individual/person in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' that YOU created; as, they reside in your "Private Spaces".
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No other User/Patron can see ANY "Living" individuals/persons that were created by another User/Patron; as, they ONLY reside in the "Private Spaces" of the User/Patron who created them.
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We CANNOT even see the ACTUAL Record in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' of our IMMEDIATE Family (eg. Spouse; Children; Parents; Siblings; ETC; Etc; etc) if they are "Living"; and, they have their own 'FamilySearch' Account.
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Of course, you can create your "Living" Family members; and, record them in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch'; but, they will ONLY be seen by you:
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▬ You cannot "Share" them with any other User/Patron.
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▬ You cannot "Merge"/'Combine" them with any other "Living" individual/person residing in the "Private Spaces" of another User//Patron.
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There is CURRENTLY no mechanism in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' for Users/Patrons, to "Share"; or, "give permission" to "Share", the "Living" individuals/persons in their own "Private Spaces" with/between other/another User(s)/Patron(s).
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There are a myriad of "Privacy" Laws within the many various Countries and Unions throughout the World - it is a nightmare to negotiate.
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"Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' is used in many Countries and Unions throughout the World; and, as such, must adhere to the myriad of "Privacy" Laws throughout the World.
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Hence, "Privacy" is one of the reasons that we cannot "Share" the "Living" individuals/persons in our own "Private Spaces" - it is NOT the ONLY reason; but, certainly has a bearing on the matter.
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Another factor is that such would have to be 'Coded'/'Programmed' into the Programme that is "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch'.
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'Yes', these "Living" individuals/person in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' WILL, in fact, in many (most) cases will be "Duplicated" - unfortunately a necessary situation that currently cannot be avoided.
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I know that there are "Duplicates" of the "Living" ME - at least, one for my Wife and each of our Children, not to mention my other ("Living") extended Family members.
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Here are some "Knowledge Articles" in 'FamilySearch' in regard to "Private Spaces" and "Living" individuals/persons:
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Who can see my living relatives in Family Tree?
https://www.familysearch.org/help/helpcenter/article/who-can-see-my-living-relatives-in-family-tree
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How does Family Tree protect the privacy of living people?
https://www.familysearch.org/help/helpcenter/article/what-is-a-private-space-in-family-tree
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What Family Tree features are available in my private space?
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Can my living relatives share a Family Tree private space to work together?
https://www.familysearch.org/help/helpcenter/article/share-a-family-tree-private-space-with-family
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Can I transfer my Family Tree private space to another user?
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Here is a good place to start, with how things work in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' (and, other programmes as well):
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Overview
'FamilySearch'
"Family Tree"
https://www.familysearch.org/tree/overview
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Getting Started with Family History
Here are the main things you need to know as you get started
https://www.familysearch.org/home/etb_gettingstarted
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How to Use the Family Tree
https://www.familysearch.org/blog/en/how-to-use-family-tree/
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What is The Family History Guide?
https://media.familysearch.org/what-is-the-family-history-guide/
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The Family History Guide
Introduction
About The Family History Guide
https://www.thefhguide.com/introduction.html
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The Family History Guide
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I hope this helps.
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Brett
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let us know if the info provided was helpful and you better understand the cause/issue at hand.
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Brett....I love your “verbose” explanation! Now I understand completely just how it all works with living family members in trees and how FS works. You explained it so well.
thx so much for taking the time to educate me...I am very appreciative.
Joyce
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I fully understand the issue now...thx to Patricia and Brett helpfulness.
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The common shared tree only contains records of deceased persons. Any record that you create for a living person is stored in your "private space" where no one else can see it.
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😀
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Jeff.....thx so much for the reply.....I was always thinking that even the persons in “private spaces” could be viewed by name only....not complete profile.
thx to all you generous community members who set me straight on this.
Joyce
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No problemo 😊
Actually, even if FS actually WANTED to make it work the way that you were thinking (i.e., part of the record public and part of it private), it would actually be quite difficult and problematic once you get down to the details of how the record would have to be maintained by the database software.
Misunderstanding of how this works in the FSFT is one of the most common things that folks get confused about. So pass on your newly found understanding to anyone that you think needs it 😎
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Jeff....definitely will do since now I have the answers. Thx soooo much!
Joyce
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