IS Rebecca Prence & Rebecca Prince of Salam Village one person or two different persons
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to be able to answer that qustion - we would need to look at the details of both of them.
do you have the ID's for them?
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Hi,
That's one of the issues I find my friend. I believe that their are spelling errors. Most of the sites run you around in circles. On the pedigree of Rebecca Prence you find (Prince). that means the death is listed as the same dates.
If you follow the name Prence back in history you find Prince that appears to have been changed to Prence when they came to America,
In a marriage book from Salam A mark Snow married Jane Prince. Under her name it reads Prence. Daughter of Gov. Thomas Prence and Elisabeth Brewster. I think the daughter knows how to spell his daughters name. The correction is written by another hand and it looks to be in pencil. The writing of janes marriage looks to be in Ink as does the next record in succession and both written by the same hand.
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Hi Jerry,
Please give me a little more information so I can look at the records. Do you have the Family Search PID's for each of them. If not, birth dates and locations will help. Looking forward to hearing back from you.
Carol
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are you referring to two specific people that exist today within Family Tree with different PID's
and trying to decide if they need to be merged?
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are you just talking much more generally about historical records some which record a Rebecca Prince and others that record a Rebecca Prence - and just wondering if there were really two separate people that existed or just one?
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Hi,
I'm new at this. I can find sites that say they are the same person and the name is interchangeable. I do not understand this unless we are talking about education. I can find an original record where Jane Prince marries Mark Snow. The name Prince is "lined out' And the name Jane Prence, daughter of Governor Thomas Prence is penciled in. Education????
I suppose Mark knows who he is marrying as he changed the name according to history. I think the gov. knows how to spell his daughters name.
Family Search Site says Thomas Prence (Prince) came to America 1630.Had a son Thomas Prence, Gov. of Plymouth Colony. Married Mary Brewster. They had daughters, Rebecca Prence, Marcy Prence, Sarah Prence (prince) Judith Prence, Hannah Prence, Elizabeth Prence, Mary Prence, Jane Prince, changed to Prence by her husband, Salam Mass keeper of the marriage and death records. Rebecca Prence (Prince) Married John( capt.) Putnam, Salam witch Trials.
I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer but this looks to me to be a toss up. Like i said. The sites are 50-50.
The originals I have seen have more spelling errors then then a new English speaker. Then their are the scratch overs, faded pages etc.
I have traced my family line back to Constable John Putnam. Interesting for me.
If he married Rebecca Prence, then i go back to William Brewster. If its Rebecca Prince that's that.
I just have not seen any paper that is conclusive to me.
I don't think it will be changed to Prence from Prince. To big of a industry for Salam.
It's all good......
Thanks for responding
JB
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spelling consistency is a thing of the twentieth century
in centuries before that spelling variation was the rule not the exception
see this site
https://www.genealogy.com/articles/research/62_donna.html
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Here are some videos about that talk about analysis and correlation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vn7rrAP9xIMHow do I know Im right
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wd_fUIZk5fothings to really highly consider:
spelling variation was normal. Dont even assume thee is necessarily a right or wrong spelling - there are simply spelling variations.
Try to assess whether spelling variations really exist on the original record - or if they are merely variances in people's transcription. (an e and an i are almost impossible im nany cases to determine in bad handwriting.
also - you wont get much value out of comapring web site 1 to web site 2 etc.
RATHER - compare an origincal source record 1 to an original souerce record 2 (or copies there of)
example - a probate record, a census record, a marriage record, a church record (of the original time period)
try NOT to rely solely on sources compiled in recent years - which may be rife with errors and mistranscriptions
go back to the original sources if possible.
also try to assess if there are records that appear to prove that two people with the same name lived in the same area around the same time - - if you do find such records - then you have to be very careful in just assuming a name match is a match to your person of focus. (example - a census record with two people with the same name in the same county or city)
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Hello,
Salam Asso. list Rebecca Prince, as the lady who married John Putnam. This breaks the line back to William Brewster, founder? of Salam
Thomas Prince, 1582, Barking, Gloucestershire, England. Gave birth to a son, John Thomas Lythgoe Prince Prence. He had a son, called,Thomas Prence. Other children, Thomas Prince, Deborah Prince, Isaac Prince, Mary Prince, Jeho Prince, Mercy Prence, Susanna Prence and Katherian Prence.
Thomas Prence married Patience Brewester of mayflower fame.
If Patience married a Prince or a Pence don't they both carry the same DNA? A rose by any other name.......
Best
JB
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How does Genealogy work? My G, G, grandfather married Louisa W. Putnam9/5/1820. Going backwards her family line is Henry, Eli, Fuller, Jephthah, Eleazor then John Putnam. So, am I in his family line???
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you have
2 parents
4 granparents
8 great grandparents
16 GG grandparents
32 GGG grandparents
and they are all your ancestors
obviosuly you are a descendant of all of them.
at your GGG Granprents you have 32 different lines
it doubles every generation.
genealogical research is up to you - you can research all of them, some of them, or research anyone you wish.
how it "works" is to a degree or another - up to you.
but you have thousands of lines that you descend from - - whether you know the exact names and relationships is another question.
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