Grandpa dies. He had taught all his children and grandchildren to be diligent family history record
Billy created one of them, but Billy can't see grandpa's ID or the other 62; in fact, Billy probably wouldn't even know they were out there, because his is the only record that shows grandpa as deceased. All 64 sets of grandpa's parents could have the same ID because they have been dead for a while, and having properly taught his progeny, they are all merged already.
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Billy can send a message out to all 64 people with FS accounts informing them that Grandpa has passed and so they need to all mark their version of Grandpa's record as "Deceased" and put in the date of death. When they all do this, each of their versions of Grandpa's record will appear in the FSFT visible to everyone. You will now have 64 duplicates of Grandpa's record that you need to merge together. That will keep everyone properly attached and their trees looking correct.
You might suggest that you can do all the merging yourself or just trust everyone to do the merges themselves (I can't remember if when you mark a living record as deceased if it immediately tells you that there are duplicates of it, but it should).
And dealing with the original "True" record in Grandpa's FS account depends some on circumstances. If Grandpa was a member of the church and had a member number, when his passing is recorded by his ward clerk, his record in his FS account will AUTOMATICALLY be marked as deceased and will show up in the FSFT to everyone.
If he was not a member, someone will need to go into his account to mark his record as deceased. For that part of it if nobody has his account access, you might have to call Customer Support to see how to handle it.
Anyway, by having all of these duplicates merged together you won't lose any information that was unique to any of those 64 people that had a record for him in their Private Space (including Grandpa himself).
Note though, that to have all the temple work that was ever done for him (alive or otherwise) show up properly, you need to get that PID out of his account (i.e., marked deceased and then merged with the others). For members of the church, the PID in the member's personal FS account is DIFFERENT from all other duplicates that others may create. The PID in a member's FS account is special in that it is associated with all of the church records for that church member (including temple work). None of the other 64 PIDs will have that information associated with them.
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@James Hurst2
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James
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Short Answer: 'NO'.
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Them's the breaks ... with being a Member of the Church.
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MANY "Living" DUPLICATE individuals/persons, exist across many 'FamilySearch' Accounts.
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As, the formerly "Living" individual/person, now "Deceased" individual/person, appears in many 'FamilySearch' Accounts - as "Living", for many Users/Patrons, EACH "Duplicate" (ie. version) of the formerly "Living" individual/person, now "Deceased" individual/person, in the "Private Spaces" of each INDIVIDUAL User/Patron, MUST be individually marked as "Deceased" by each INDIVIDUAL User/Patron, separately.
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There is NO "Batch" function/option ... for Users/Patrons
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As, each INDIVIDUAL User/Patron CANNOT 'see' the "Living" version, of the now "Deceased", individual/person which resides in the "Private Spaces" of each OTHER User/Patron.
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You cannot SHARE "Living" individuals/persons in the "Private Spaces" in your 'FamilySearch' Account with any other User/Patron.
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You cannot "MERGE/COMBINE the "Living" individuals/persons in the "Private Spaces" in your 'FamilySearch' Account with any other "Living" individual/person residing in the "Private Spaces" of another User//Patron.
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There is CURRENTLY no mechanism in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' for Users/Patrons, to "Share"; or, "give permission" to "Share", the "Living" individuals/persons in their own "Private Spaces" with/between other/another User(s)/Patron(s).
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There are a myriad of "Privacy" Laws within the many various Countries and Unions throughout the World - it is a nightmare to negotiate.
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"Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' is used in many Countries and Unions throughout the World; and, as such, must adhere to the myriad of "Privacy" Laws throughout the World.
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Hence, "Privacy" is one of the reasons that we cannot "Share" the "Living" individuals/persons in our own "Private Spaces" - it is NOT the ONLY reason; but, certainly has a bearing on the matter.
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Another factor is that such would have to be 'Coded'/'Programmed' into the Programme that is "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch'.
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We have been advised that 'FamilySearch' is currently investigating the possibilities with regard to "Sharing" the "Living" individuals/persons in our "Private Spaces"; but, that said, that is a 'ways off' yet.
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Terms such as, "Inheritance"; and, "Bequeathing", have been 'bandied about'; but, everything is still speculation at this stage ...
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'Billy' will have to try to contact ALL his Relatives and ask them to MARK 'Grandpa' as "Deceased"; then, 'Billy' will be able to "Merge"/"Combine" all the x64 (or, so) 'FamilySearch Person Identifiers' (PIDs) of 'Grandpa' into ONE, one by one, one at a time - hopefully, with the original PID of 'Grandpa' created from his "Church Membership" record being the "Surviving" record ...
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[ As, in fact, All the OTHERS are the "Duplicates" ... ]
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We can live in hope ...
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Brett
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Forever the Pessimistic Optimist ...
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So how is Billy supposed to know about those other 30 records so he can notify the others? I have some suggestions. This is not an uncommon need and I don't think the solution would be very difficult to create.
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That is certainly a challenge. There is ALREADY a mechanism in FS that sort of does this (i.e., notify everyone with a private duplicate of that record), but it is a bit obscure. As soon as anyone marks their version of the record as "Deceased", it is moved into the public part of the FSFT. That means when anyone and everyone who has their own "live" record for that person opens it, it will be flagged as having duplicates.
This has been useful to me in the past when someone has created a record for a person who is still alive but marked that person as Deceased. My message to the someone that did it runs something like: "I see that you've marked so-and-so as deceased but you have not given any reasons or sources why that is correct. Has that person really died? Are their any records confirming that event? Please let me know"
But again, it is rather obscure. I had to actually open my live version of the person's record before I saw that there was another deceased version out there (I think that the "possible duplicate" marker can also show up in other places such as the pedigree views, but I'm not positive about that). Getting a literal message or email indicating that one of your LIVE records in your private space appears to now have a deceased duplicate would probably be more useful.
At least that way everyone could check their own private version and then, (if appropriate) mark it as deceased and then merge it into the one previously marked as deceased in the public part of the FSFT.
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