create a global tree
How do I create a global tree so other family member can see what I have entered?
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Hi Wayne,
I'm not sure what you mean by a global tree. Anyone can see what you have entered on deceased family members. They cannot see information for living members and this has to do with privacy rights for living people. I hope this answers your question.
Carol
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this is a global tree - it is a single database that all the world can view and update.
However - that excludes any records for living persons- - which can only be viewed on the account the record was created on.
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With the exception of records for living persons, you cannot create a tree. You can only add to and improve on the single shared FamilySearch FamilyTree that is on the website.
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Actually I believe you can create a tree. It may start with yourself (living) and not show globally, and your parents (if living - not show globally) and so forth until you tie into a line that has already been input. Not all families are in the FamilySearch database and you may not tie in with someone right away, so in essence you have created a tree. I know with my family it took a few generations to make connections. Just another thought on the matter.
Carol
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I need to make a clarification. Once you input deceased people into the FamilySearch database they can be accessed by anyone which may result in changes to what you input. It is always a good idea to keep a separate file in whatever program you chose to keep track of "your" family.
Carol
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I understand what you are saying. I just worry about the term "tree" being used so loosely. In FamilySearch's database, there is only one tree. It is called the FamilySearch FamilyTree. It definitely has many disjoint "branches", but they are all branches of the same tree. The database is totally designed to support only one tree. The hints engine, support of attached sources, and all searches in the FamilyTree support ALL branches in the database, whether they are attached or not. It works to find and eliminate duplicates so that any given person record in the database is unique.
There are a lot of people who initially think that they can "create" their own independent tree like they would in Ancestry.com or many other sites. This is the typical way things are done. But this is not how it works in the FSFT, and if they attempt it, they will be fighting the system and its associated processes which wants to absorb the records they've created into the one Shared FamilyTree. Someone is bound to come along and merge that person's records into the main tree, or minimally just change them. As long as new folks coming in are allowed to think that the FamilySearch database contains multiple patron created trees, they are being set up for some confusion and frustration.
So when I see folks using that "tree" type terminology, I can assume that they don't understand the single shared tree nature of the FamilySearch FamilyTree, and I think that the sooner they do understand it, the more grief that they will avoid 😊
So I try to avoid using terminology that might just reinforce a new person's incorrect assumptions about the system. I would prefer to say something like "No, you can't create a tree because there is only one in the database, and it is already there"
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depends on the definition of "create a tree"
to me this implies a separate file . . . a separate database
again FS is ONE database - except that for living persons are only viewable by that one account that created them.
I think I agree with you Carol - just that I prefer not to use the phrase "create your own tree".
As stated this is a collaborative system for anyone entered who is deceased - period.
All records are in the FT database - just that those who are not marked as deceased - are only viewable by the account that created them - and thus are "partitioned" from those that are marked as deceased.
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Yes. Just like this image shows:
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agreed
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Specifically here is my problem. I have entered data for cousins and their children but do not have specific dates. They would like to not only see deceased family but be able to see living relatives and enter data for their children that is on the tree that I created. How do they accomplish this?
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Wayne,
Again, you have not really created a tree, you've just added those names on your branch of the main FamilySearch Tree. Any of them that are Deceased can be seen and modified by anyone. Any that you have created which do not have a Death date and are not marked as "Deceased" CANNOT be seen by anyone else. This is intentional based on international laws governing personal ID security.
Live records in the tree are not shared.
I know that FS has been looking into this to determine if there might be a way to legally provide such a feature but we've not seen anything of it yet.
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FamilySearch is first and foremost a database of DECEASED persons (persons marked as deceased in the system). Such database is a collaborative approach - where anyone can go in and see those records
Though FS does let you enter data for living persons - because of privacy, security, identity theft considerations - such information is not viewable to other users - even family members.
FamilySearch - under its current architecture - was never designed to be a system for sharing family records - for people who are LIVING.
That could change at some point - but I do not foresee it anytime in the near future.
Trying to use FS as a system to share info on living persons will be like putting a square peg in a round hole - it just doesnt work.
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