Can't find principals in Norway Baptisms

LegacyUser

Can't find principals in Norway Baptisms

First noticed today, I can no longer find any principals in Norway Baptisms collection. A search for any name and date range returns no principals, only fathers (or mothers) of the principals. Very puzzling.

Nvpattt

@LegacyUser It sounds like you have solved your problem. Is there anything else that needs answering in this thread or are you satisfied?

LegacyUser

OK I filled in the question. Any ideas?

Dennis J Yancey

can you provide a link?

LegacyUser

I think it's a change in the search policy/algorythm. Before, searching for Ole Larsen, born in Oslo 1841, would easily find my ancestor, although the patronymic was assumed, not specified, in the baptism record, as were most such records.

 

https://www.familysearch.org/search/record/results?

q.givenName=Ole&q.surname=Larsen&q.birthLikePlace=Oslo%2C%20Norway&q.birthLikeDate.from=1841&q.birthLikeDate.to=1841&count=20&offset=0&m.defaultFacets=on&m.queryRequireDefault=on&m.facetNestCollectionInCategory=on

 

 

Now, I have to change the search to omit the surname and search with a father first name of Lars.

 

https://www.familysearch.org/search/record/results?q.givenName=Ole&q.birthLikePlace=Oslo, Norway&q.birthLikeDate.from=1841&q.birthLikeDate.to=1841&q.fatherGivenName=Lars&count=20&offset=0&m.defaultFacets=on&m.queryRequireDefault=on&m.facetNestCollectionInCategory=on

 

My ancestor is there, in second place, along with a lot of noise (spurious results). Is this a change in the system, or a configuration error? This is an issue for one of my favored search techniques.

LegacyUser

Looks like one of my links won't work. I can send before and after screenshots of another case if you like.

Dennis J Yancey

the first url is not clickable - but if you select copy and paste to browser - it will work.

 

I agree that this may be a difference in the search algorithm.

 

I havent dealt much with Scandinavian patronymics - though I do understand it.

Did it really (previously) auto assume the correct fathers name based on Patronymics??? If so thats pretty interesting - I was not aware (but that doenst mean much - that I wasnt aware)

LegacyUser

Almost correct. Previously, FamilySearch auto assumed the baby's correct patronymic (when it was not included in the record), based on the father's first name. Now, the user must search for the baby's first name only, and the father's first name, to get similar results. Whether assumed or specified, the patronymic was, and still is, treated as a surname by the search, although the name was not passed down through multiple generations, as "normal" surnames are.

 

Since posting this thread, I have adapted to the new procedure, and am now satisfied with the change.