How do family members join family trees together? (Everyone in my immediate family has different fa
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You have to keep in mind that any records you create for LIVING persons - are NOT shareable with others - they are only viewable by you. (to conform to privacy and other legal regulations)
as far as joining and sharing with others - - that will have to be your deceased relatives - which are all part of a massive database that we all share.
see:
https://www.familysearch.org/help/helpcenter/article/Understanding-Private-Spaces
https://community.familysearch.org/s/feed/0D53A00004nyuo2SAA
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Thank you. The Private Space seems to be a problem, as I, my wife, and children have different #'s on different pedigree charts--one on mine, another on my wife's, another on their own, another on siblings... There are also multiple people that have multiple #'s and details, such as Living on one chart, yet Deceased on another. (Someone gets on and changes the details, and it affects and messes up my chart!)
I am guessing I need to merge, so I found this part about merging.
So I get this: https://www.familysearch.org/help/helpcenter/article/how-do-i-merge-possible-duplicates-in-family-tree
"Steps (website)
In Family Tree, display a person page.
If the Details section is not displayed, click Details.
In the Research Help section, click a Possible Duplicate message.
Click Review Merge. The merge screen opens in a new browser tab.
- Left side: This is the possible duplicate. It is deleted if you merge the records.
- Right side: This is the record you started from. It is saved if you merge the records."
But I run into problems. Is that still correct? I cannot find the 'Details' section, or especially the 'Research Help' section and the 'Possible Duplicate message.'
Any suggestions about how to correct and merge the different pedigree charts?
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Between you and your wife - you will not be able to merge ID's for living persons.
That is just how it is.
You may wish to choose one of your accounts and enter all of the information there and not try to duplicate effort.
but even then - you will not be able to share these records for living person with others (such as children etc.)
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"merging possible duplicates" ONLY applies to deceased persons - not living.
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Familysearch is designed so that any info for living persons - is kept private under the account in which it was created - so that others will not have access to this private information.
Your own personal information for example - is kept private within your account - no one else can see it. (even if another person created their own record for you in their account). Records for living people are never shared/merged with other accounts to comply with privacy and security laws.
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@DS_1 DS_1
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David
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Further to what 'Dennis' has already discussed with you ...
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What I try to share with all those new to what "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' is all about ...
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[ I am sorry; but, some of the reference below have already been suggested to you by 'Dennis' ... ]
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We do not have our OWN "Tree" in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch'.
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We ONLY have "Branches", that are interconnected, in this SINGLE "One" World "Tree", for all of us, that is "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch'.
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"Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' is NOT like other "Websites"; and/or, 'standalone' personal programmes (eg. "Ancestry_com" or the like).
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We DO NOT have "Private"/"Personal" 'Trees' in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' like other "Websites"; and/or, 'standalone' personal programmes.
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We do not even, own; or, manage; and, are NOT even responsible for, the "Deceased" individuals/person in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch'.
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"Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' is built on a "Open Edit" Platform - hence, why any registered User/Patron can "Edit" (ie. Add, Delete; and/or, Change) ANY "Deceased" individual/person in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch'.
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You can certainly "Merge"/"Combine" any "Deceased" individual/person in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' with another "Deceased" individual/person in "Family Tree" of "FamilySearch", regardless of who the User/Patron was that initially created those "Deceased" individuals/persons; as, they DO NOT reside with the User/Patron who initially created them - they are "Public".
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If fact, you can ONLY see "Deceased" individuals/persons in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch'; except, with this 'rider', that you can ALSO only see "Living" individual/person in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' that YOU created; as, they reside in your "Private Spaces".
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No other User/Patron can see ANY "Living" individuals/persons that were created by another User/Patron; as, they ONLY reside in the "Private Spaces" of the User/Patron who created them.
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We CANNOT even see the ACTUAL Record in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' of our IMMEDIATE Family (eg. Spouse; Children; Parents; Siblings; ETC; Etc; etc) if they are "Living"; and, they have their own 'FamilySearch' Account.
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Of course, you can create your "Living" Family members; and, record them in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch'; but, they will ONLY be seen by you:
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- You cannot "Share" them with any other User/Patron.
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- You cannot "Merge"/'Combine" them with any other "Living" individual/person residing in the "Private Spaces" of another User/Patron.
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There is CURRENTLY no mechanism in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' for Users/Patrons, to "Share"; or, "give permission" to "Share", the "Living" individuals/persons in their own "Private Spaces" with/between other/another User/Patron.
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There are a myriad of "Privacy" Laws within the many various Countries and Unions throughout the World - it is a nightmare to negotiate.
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"Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' is used in many Countries and Unions throughout the World; and, as such, must adhere to the myriad of "Privacy" Laws throughout the World.
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Hence, "Privacy" is one of the reasons that we cannot "Share" the "Living" individuals/persons in our own "Private Spaces" - it is NOT the ONLY reason; but, certainly has a bearing on the matter.
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Another factor is that such would have to be 'Coded'/'Programmed' into the Programme that is "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch'.
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'Yes', these "Living" individuals/persons in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' WILL, in fact, in many (most) cases will be "Duplicated" - unfortunately a necessary situation that currently cannot be avoided.
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I know that there are "Duplicates" of the "Living" ME - at least, one for my Wife and each of our Children, not to mention my other ("Living") extended Family members.
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For Members of the Church, whose immediate Family is also in the Church, your "Pedigree" (ie. "Tree") will automatically filled-out with your immediate Family members - but, you will all be "Duplicated" amongst yourselves with different 'FamilySearch Person Identifiers' (PIDs) in each case.
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Basically, we have to have; and, in some cases, build, a "Bridge", of the "Living" Family members (eg. Spouse; Children; Parents; Siblings; Aunts; Uncles, Nephews, Nieces; ETC; Etc; etc), to connect/link to the "Deceased" Family members and Ancestors.
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Here are some "Knowledge Articles" in 'FamilySearch' in regard to "Private Spaces" and "Living" individuals/persons:
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What is a private space in Family Tree?
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Who can see my living relatives in Family Tree?
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Here is a good place to start, with how things work in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' (and, other programmes as well):
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Introducing The Family History Guide
https://www.familysearch.org/ask/learningViewer/733
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Introducing The Family History Guide
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The Family History Guide
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I hope this helps.
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Brett
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David,
Here is an image that might be useful to you:
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I appreciate everyone's help.
Our family trees among immediate family (my wife and children) did not/ has not filled out automatically. Our trees are completed to a different degree.
Is there the ability to connect through family's deceased, and bring over everything after that?
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@DS_1 DS_1 in a manner of speaking, yes. Once each family member have added the appropriate names then it should "auto generate" or connect you to other records found in the tree.
So for example, when I added my husband's family to my FamilySearch Tree, the only way to connect with his ancestors was to add his parents, his grandparents, and his great grandparents in the case where two of his grandmothers are still living. Once I had a deceased ancestor "plugged in" then other ancestors auto populated because of the work and efforts of others.
Does that make sense? Also, if anyone in your family would like, we have a group here in the Community for additional help with your FamilySearch Family Tree: https://community.familysearch.org/s/group/0F93A0000009aTDSAY/familysearch-family-tree
@FamilySearch Family Tree
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@DS_1 DS_1
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As 'Amber' has already indicated ...
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Short Answer: 'Yes'.
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All your Family members have to "Add" ALL the SAME "Living" individuals/persons of your immediate and extended Family members into "Family Tree" in their "Private Spaces" in their respective (ie. individual) 'FamilySearch' Accounts, to link/connect THROUGH the "Deceased" individuals/persons in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySerach', the latter being / that are COMMON to ALL Users/Patrons.
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In general ...
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All Users/Patrons can "See" the "Deceased" individuals/persons in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySerach', no matter who created them.
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Whereas, ONLY "You" can "See" the "Living" individuals/persons in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySerach', that you "Created".
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Again, all your Family members have to "Build" a "Bridge" of ALL the SAME "Living" individuals/persons of your immediate and extended Family members into "Family Tree" in their "Private Spaces" in respective (ie. individual) 'FamilySearch' Accounts, to link/connect THROUGH the "Deceased" individuals/persons in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySerach'.
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I hope that makes sense
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Brett
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ps: If you are a Member of the Church, all your Family members who are Members of the Church will have their respective (ie. individual) 'FamilySearch' Accounts pre-populated with immediate Family members - with the proviso that Children will ONLY have their "Parents"; but, NOT their LIVING "Siblings" - their LIVING "Sibling" will need to be "Added" as "Living" individuals/persons. And, of course, that pre-population will NOT include "Living" Aunts; Uncles, Nieces; Nephews; Cousins; ETC; Etc; etc ...
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Got it all done! Merged two deceased people, then carried over my wife's family using her father's ID. Thank you everyone!
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