Just submitted my gedcom; added my parents and it created my tree. Problem is the ones that they att
So this means I have to go through my tree person by person and correct?? I have over 3, 000 names ... think I will back off and go back to Ancestry.
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You will have to compare each person in your Gedcom to possible matches in Family Tree. Once you note which person in Family Tree matches that person in your Gedcom you can click to add sources and notes that you have in your Gedcom to that individual in Family Tree. This one-by-one process to compare to Family Tree is the same whether you use Ancestry, a third-party program or a Gedcom upload.
That said, how exciting for other family members to see all of the research you are able to add to Family Tree!
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Ancestry and FamilySearch have two totally different paradigms. Ancestry gives you total control of your own database. Familysearch allows you to work collaboratively with millions of other users - all working together on one single consolidated database. Its apples and oranges. Neither one fits the needs of everyone. BUT I would suggest you watch this video below - to really better understand the LONGTERM value of a site like FamilySearch.
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@Victoria Johnson_6
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Victoria
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You say you "... just submitted [your] GEDCOM ...".
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Where did you "Submit" your GEDCOM File?
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- To the "Genealogies" Part of 'FamilySearch'?
- Or, to "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch'?
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They are two (x2) totally separate and distinct areas in 'FamilySearch' ...
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It sounds like that you initially "Uploaded" your GEDCOM File into the "Genealogies" Part of 'FamilySearch'; and, then, you continued on further and "Uploaded" that GEDCOM File into "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' - by your comment that "... Problem is the ones that they attached to my tree - well, they contain wrong information and most of the time no sources ..."!!!???
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IF, you ONLY "Uploaded" your GEDCOM File into the "Genealogies" Part of 'FamilySearch'; then, there should have been NO problem/issue; as, such GEDCOM File are loaded "As Is".
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The "Genealogies" Part of 'FamilySearch' is a place for Users/Patrons to place "Pedigrees" (ie. "Trees") that are 'Standalone', for RESEARCH PURPOSES only - for others to access/view. Such "Pedigrees" (ie. "Trees") are NOT 'connected'/'linked'. Such "Pedigrees" (ie. "Trees") are NOT "Editable", they CANNOT be "Changed", only "Deleted"; and, "Replaced" by an updated version.
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WHEREAS,
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IF, you continued on beyond the "Genealogies" Part of 'FamilySearch'; and, THEN, "Uploaded" your GEDCOM File into "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch', that is another matter entirely (and, I might add, from the perspective of some of us Users/Patrons, an unfortunate one).
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Please do not take offence at the following ...
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It is meant to put things into perspective ...
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You are NOT alone ...
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Many Users/Patrons have spent MANY Years thoroughly researching and documenting their Ancestral lines ...
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[ eg. I have been doing so for over 55 Years; and, have a little more (well, a lot more) than 3,000 ... ]
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Many NEW and inexperienced Users/Patrons of "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' DO NOT understand the concept of "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch'.
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Let me explain ...
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We do not have our OWN "Tree" in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch'.
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We ONLY have "Branches", that are interconnected, in this SINGLE "One" World "Tree", for all of us, that is "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch'.
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"Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' is NOT like "Ancestry_com" or the like.
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We DO NOT have "Private"/"Personal" 'Trees' in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' like other "Websites"; and/or, 'standalone' personal programmes.
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We do not even, own; or, manage; and, are NOT even responsible for, the "Deceased" individuals/persons in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch'.
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"Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' is built on a "Open Edit" Platform - hence, why any registered User/Patron can "Edit" (ie. Add, Delete; and/or, Change) ANY "Deceased" individual/person in "Family Tree" of "FamilySearch".
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Part of what "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' is all about is "Collaboration", helping each other.
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Now ...
That said ...
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Some of the reasons that Users/Patrons (like myself) would suggest that the ability to upload a GEDCOM File into "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' is unfortunate are:
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(1) It is most likely that individuals/persons in a GEDCOM File are ALREADY in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch'; and, most Users/Patrons DO NOT even take the time to look to see if any one in their GEDCOM File is already in "Family Tree", in some instances, negating the need to even upload the GEDCOM File.
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(2) There has been (many) cases where Users/Patrons, using the "Compare" process (of the upload) have "Dismissed" a "Possible" Match with an individual/person already in "Family Tree"; so that, their "Record", from their GEDCOM File, is loaded into "Family Tree", regardless; just so that, their "Record" appears in "Family Tree" (and, in some instances, for Members of the Church, so they can do the "Temple" Work, despite the fact that the "Temple" Work is ALREADY done with the "Possible" Match with the individual/person already in "Family Tree").
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(3) Even with the "Compare" process (of the upload), there has been (many) cases where Users/Patrons have uploaded THEIR version of an individual/person in their GEDCOM File, on top of (ie. Over) an individual/person ALREADY in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' that has been there for MANY years and is well documented and "Sources" - in many instances obliterating all of the documentation and "Sources".
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(4) If an individual/person is ALREADY in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch', there is NO need to up uploaded one's version of an individual/person from one's own GEDCOM File - just take note of the the 'FamilySearch Person Idenmtifier' (PID) of the individual/person that is ALREADY in "Family Tree"; and, one can go back later to ensure what information/detail is recorded and attached for that individual/person. Just DO NOT uploaded one's version of an individual/person in their GEDCOM File, on top of (ie. Over) an individual/person ALREADY in "Family Tree" - obliterating all of the documentation and "Sources" ALREADY in place/on record.
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(5) The "Hours" (sometimes "Days") of work, by other Users/Patrons, that can be needed to CORRECT the DAMAGE done by the upload of a GEDCOM File can be disheartening.
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I am sorry ... 'off my soap box' ...
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Enter (ie. 'Create) the individuals/persons in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' one at a time - on a one by one basis.
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Many of the individuals/persons most probably ALREADY exist in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch'.
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Only one or two generations of the "Living" individuals/persons; and, possibly, some of the generations of the "Deceased" individuals/persons, may be required to be entered/input in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch'; before, some of the "Deceased" individuals/persons from Ancestral lines ALREADY existing in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch', are discovered.
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Use the "Find" facility/function/feature to Search "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch', you may be surprised to find some (if not, many) of them already there.
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Many well established and documented (eg. "Sourced") individuals/person in "Family Tree" of "FamilySearch" have been RUINED by the upload a GEDCOM File into "Family Tree" of "FamilySearch".
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And ...
Furthermore ...
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Many Users/Patrons use, BOTH, "Family Tree" of "FamilySearch"; and, the likes of 'On-Line' "Websites" (such as, "Ancestry_com"); and/or, a 'standalone' programme on their own personal Computer - OR, even a combination of a number of them.
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I know that this ('in retrospect') does not help; but, I hope this puts things into perspective.
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Brett
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ps: Again, I hope that you did not take offence at this response of mine - it was not meant to be offensive or disrespectful.
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Victoria, If I may repeat in a different way what has been said above, I would emphasize a couple of things. First off I am in the same situation as you, having researched about the same number of years and having well documented information for about the same number of individuals. It took me about six months to transfer all this to Family Tree. Very few of the 6000 individuals did I have to enter in new. The vast majority were already in Family Tree. I spent those months correcting data, adding sources, cleaning up formatting, and combining duplicates. I have found this well worth the relatively short time invested.
Why?
1) Because FamilySearch will be doing everything possible to preserve all this information forever. That is their mission and reason for existence.
Ancestry will maintain our information until they change their business model, go bankrupt, get bored, or have some other reason to shut down and erase everyone's trees.
2) Because in Family Tree all a person's information is in one place. In Family Tree my great-great-grandfather has one record and every source that anyone has ever been able to find about him so far is on that record. Any new information added to him will be seen by every one of his descendants who is interested in looking for it.
On Ancestry, my great-great-grandfather is in, at last count a few years ago, 109 trees. Some of them have sources. Most do not. If the owner of one of those tree adds a newly discovered fact, the likelihood that anyone else will ever see it is miniscule.
3) Because I don't know everything or have everything. Since Family Tree was established and I have been watching the entries for my family, all sorts of fun pictures, documents and stories have been added that I never knew anything about and would have never been able to find.
At Ancestry, the only thing in my tree is the information I have put there. No one is helping improve the record.
4) FamilySearch is completely free and always will be. Not because it is shoddy and cheap (quite the contrary. It is a remarkable site.) but because its sponsor sees it as the best way to support a critically important, from an eternal perspective, religious obligation of its members.
Ancestry is a business that will always be searching for ways to get more money out of us or will just shut down if it can't.
Regarding your concern about seeing wrong information, I would offer a warning: if the people that got added to your tree have the wrong information and no sources, the first thing you must do is make sure those are the correct people. You have to determine if the information really is wrong or if it actually is completely correct but these people are not your family. Remember, you are not seeing just your information in Family Tree, you are seeing everyone in the tree. The possible duplicates and the hints routines are really good but still far from perfect. You do not want to mess up someone else's information by "correcting" their relatives into your completely different relatives!
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Great Response, Gordon!!
Nothing against Ancestry - but this emphasizes the PROS of FamilySearch
and points out the diverging paradigm between the two.
Both Ancestry and FS have their place.
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this is a write up I did on the contrast between the "siloed" approach vs the "collaborative" approach.
http://yanceyfamilygenealogy.org/collaborative.htm
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Brett ... no offense taken. I did the submit through Genealogies and am working on the Review files. I jogged over to the Family Tree with just me and added my Father and Mother. Then it seemed to populate ... with misinformation and wrong people. So I stopped that. When I look at the "Already" review file is where I am seeing people that look like they match with little info it is hard to tell. There are also people that come up with the wrong information. I guess I don't understand how a large all in one family tree works when so much of it is not correct, badly sourced or not sourced. I added mine that were not in the big db. Very confusing. Thanks for all the info.
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Brett. I just went in and looked at my great grandmother (already in the db). They have her name as Jenny and it is not .. it is Eugenia. So I changed it. Does that mean that anybody can find one of my ancestors and change? What kind of checks are there; do I include a source with a change? What if someone disagrees with my change? I can see the advantages to this system but I'm also seeing big disadvantages.
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Ok. I've been replying to Brett but thought I would leave a reply here. I did enter my parents on the "family tree" ... a whole lot of wrong is connected. The tree got huge after adding just 2 people. Includes wrong info, no sources and non blood lines or really remote ones. Can I delete my parents and just let that go.??
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I found the way to remove my parents from my "family tree".... starting to get my head around this.
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Can you provide the ID's of a few of the people on your tree so we can take a look?
see: https://community.familysearch.org/s/feed/0D53A00004qZopWSAS
We would hope that with patience and work - we would be able to benefit from all of your research - by you adding your sourced information to the family tree.
But this is a collaborative system - - not a system where you maintain your own data following your own level of standards and only with what you consider fact. If that is your goal - and there is nothing wrong with that - then you may be better to use your own standalone application where by you can control precisely what gets entered.
BUT again - we would hope to benefit from your expertise and knowledge of this branch of the family tree - - but we all have to work together and some participants may not have as high of standards as you do. It is a synergistic approach.
also note the intent is that there would only be one record in the database for any given person - - so you wont just be able to build your family tree here - without also working with those records that others have already been loaded - some without sources.
But the intent is for accuracy. . . If you have sources where other haven't - we would hope you could add them.
Or where you know something is in error - that you could take the time to correct it - and cite a source as proof. or if you see relationships that are not correct - that you can help us disconnect such relationships - and add comments and sources as background.
We clearly want to leverage your expertise and years of research.
but in a collaborative system like this - you have to start from what is already there - and make it better and more accurate - and not just "start from scratch".
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well yes you can do that . . . but why? - what is your ultimate goal? dont you want to be connected to you parents, grandparents, ggrandparents?
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Research all you can about the added people. Use the Ancestry, MyHeritage links... as well as the document (find a grave, etc) links that FS offers you for the person. Sometimes I find that the person is an almost forgotten one. Other times I find that the data makes it impossible for the person to belong in the family. Be sure before removing. Oh, the more common one - oh so common - is that there has been a duplicate added by someone who didn't check, or added by Family Search (Indexing). Search out for duplicates, and when you can tell for absolute sure they are the same person, merge them. Duplicates are confusing to all.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwRSRZ9amlM