Grandfather Israel Plotka Silverman's ship manifest, birth location , and his parents ( Fishel and R

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Grandfather Israel Plotka Silverman's ship manifest, birth location , and his parents ( Fishel and Rose) birth birth and death location.

My grandfather was Israel Plotka born March 1872 in Russia. He immigrated to America with his older sister Sima Rivka Plotka( b. 1853 )and her husband Mordechai Applebaum and their children Sophie, Charles, Archibald ( the children were born in  

Zincov, Russia. ) Israel passed himself off as his sister's son. They all took the surname SILVERMAN. when they came to USA...Rhode Island.. They came about 1887 to 1890. Looking for: ship's manifest.

My g grandparents were Fishel and Rose (Pepper) Plotka.. I think Fishel was an egg dealer in Russia. .unable to find exactly where they lived or died in Russia. Any ideas?

Lois Cohen loisteach@verizon.net

 

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Can anyone suggest further research in US records to locate the home town in Russia?

Camilla Prater

Hi Lois!!

I shared your post with Family History Research. They specialize in finding family members.

I hope you find what you are looking for!!

Camilla

Robert Givens

@Lois Cohen​ - Besides the ship manifest you should try to locate naturalization records as these usually detail either where the person was born or where they lived in the Old Country when they left for America. Do you have these families on the 1900 or 1910 census? That census asked for the year of immigration and is usually pretty accurate. That would help you narrow the search.

Go to this site to search for the ship manifest. Steve Morse has the absolute best tool to use for searching. Most likely they came through Ellis Island though they may have gone straight to Boston.

Try: https://stevemorse.org/

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Our ancestor came before 1906. Israel Silverman, my paternal grandfather, was naturalized in Providence , Rhode Island Nov. 2, 1898. His surname was spelled SILBERMAN. It states he was born June 1870 and he was a minor when he arrived April 8, 1887 in New York City. He had been living in Providence, RI for 11 years.

Yes, Israel Silverman is in the 1900 and 1910 Providence census. Per the 1900 census he stated 1890 as his year of immigration.

Maybe, his ship's manifest is missing.

Lois Cohen

Ellie Vance

Hi Lois!

I noticed that on the 1900 census, it states that he was a naturalized citizen. Have you looked for naturalization records? These can often be the key to finding the hometown. Records in Russia are kept at the local level, so it's crucial to know the name of the hometown before you can begin looking at records in Russia.

You can read more about locating naturalization records in this article.

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User15915480267553033432

All his naturalization paper stated was Russia. Some of his cousins came from Zincov. His original surname was PLOTKA.

Lois Cohen

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His surname is Russia was PLOTKA OR PLOTKE.

He took the surname SILVERMAN when he immigrated to the USA.

Lois Cohen

Ellie Vance

Hmm, that's difficult when records don't provide a specific place. If some of his relatives came from Zincov, you may want to try looking there. That might be your best bet.

Looks like there are two possibilities for "Zincov:"

https://www.jewishgen.org/Communities/jgcd.php

Do you know which one it might be? Both are now located in modern day Ukraine.