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May 3, 2020 edited October 19, 2023 in Family Tree
How to complete merge

 

I get to the below screen. I don't see a way forward. For my account and my wife's account we each have a separate entry for me. I've tried doing the merge using my wife's account as active, and with my account as active.FamilySearch

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  • Dennis J Yancey
    Dennis J Yancey ✭✭✭✭✭
    May 3, 2020 Answer ✓

    You are trying to merge two records that cant be merged.

     

    You cannot merge records for people who are living.

     

    Each spouse (under each account) will need to create a record for the other spouse - and such records cannot be merged with the corresponding record in the other account.

     

    any records for a LIVING person you create in a given account- can only be accessed in that one account (they are kept private and not shared with other accounts (for privacy and legal reasons)

     

    thus each account (1 for each spouse) will need to create a record for the other spouse - and they cannot be merged.

     

    (you are better off just using one account and sharing it between yourselves)

     

     

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  • Dennis J Yancey
    Dennis J Yancey ✭✭✭✭✭
    May 3, 2020 Answer ✓

    Information concerning people who are living

    is stored in a "private space" and is not shared with other account users

    (even if that account user is a spouse)

    this for legal reasons - due to privacy and identity laws

     

    for more info about private spaces see: https://www.familysearch.org/help/salesforce/viewArticle?urlname=Understanding-Private-Spaces&lang=en_US

     

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  • Brett .
    Brett . ✭✭✭✭✭
    May 3, 2020 Answer ✓

    @kathylouisecotton1 kathylouisecotton1​ 

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    Further to what 'Dennis' has already proffered ...

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    Short Answer: You CANNOT do what you are trying to do.

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    By way of explanation ...

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    We all have DIFFERENT (in fact, UNIQUE) 'FamilySearch Person Identifiers' (PIDs) for ALL the "Living" individuals/persons in the "Private Spaces" of OUR 'Personal' "FamilySearch" Accounts; and, that INCLUDES our IMMEDIATE Family members (ie. Spouse and Children; and even, Parents and Grandparents - if they are STILL "Living").

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    NO Other User/Patron can see ANY "Living" individuals/persons that were created by another User/Patron; as, they ONLY reside in the "Private Spaces" of the User/Patron who created them.

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    We CANNOT even see the ACTUAL Record in "Family Tree" of "FamilySearch" of our IMMEDIATE Family (eg. Spouse; Children; Parents; Siblings; ETC; Etc; etc) if they are "Living"; and, they have their own "FamilySearch" Account.

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    Of course, you can create your "Living" Family members; and, record them in "Family Tree" of "FamilySearch"; but, they will ONLY be seen by you:

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    - You cannot "Share" them with any other User/Patron.

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    - You cannot "Merge"/'Combine" them with any other "Living" individual/person residing in the "Private Spaces" of another User//Patron.

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    There is CURRENTLY no mechanism in "Family Tree" of "FamilySearch" for Users/Patrons, to "Share"; or, "give permission" to "Share", the "Living" individuals/persons in their own "Private Spaces" with/between other/another User/Patron.

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    There are a myriad of "Privacy" Laws within the many various Countries and Unions throughout the World - it is a nightmare to negotiate.

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    "Family Tree" of "FamilySearch" is used in many Countries and Unions throughout the World; and, as such, must adhere to the myriad of "Privacy" Laws throughout the World.

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    Hence, "Privacy" is one of the reasons that we cannot "Share" the "Living" individuals/persons in our own "Private Spaces" - it is NOT the ONLY reason; but, certainly has a bearing on the matter.

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    Another factor is that such would have to be 'Coded'/'Programmed' into the Programme that is "Family Tree" of "FamilySearch".

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    'Yes', these "Living" individuals/person in "Family Tree" of "FamilySearch" WILL, in fact, in many (most) cases will be "Duplicated" - unfortunately a necessary situation that currently cannot be avoided.

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    I know that there are "Duplicates" of the "Living" ME - at least, one for my Wife and each of our Children, not to mention my other ("Living") extended Family members.

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    Now ...

    That said ...

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    We do not have our OWN "Tree" in "Family Tree" of "FamilySearch".

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    We ONLY have "Branches", that are interconnected, in this SINGLE "One" World "Tree", for all of us, that is "Family Tree" of "FamilySearch".

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    "Family Tree" of "FamilySearch" is NOT like "Ancestry_com" or the like.

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    We DO NOT have "Private"/"Personal" 'Trees' in "Family Tree" of "FamilySearch" like other "Web" Sites; and/or, 'standalone' personal programmes.

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    We do not even, own; or, manage; and, are NOT even responsible for, the "Deceased" individuals/person in "Family Tree" of "FamilySearch".

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    "Family Tree" of "FamilySearch" is built on a "Open Edit" Platform - hence, why any registered User/Patron can "Edit" (ie. Add, Delete; and/or, Change) ANY "Deceased" individual/person in "Family Tree" of "FamilySearch".

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    You can certainly "Merge"/"Combine" any "Deceased" individual/person in "Family Tree" of "FamilySearch" with another "Deceased" individual/person in "Family Tree" of "FamilySearch", regardless of who the User/Patron was that initially created those "Deceased" individuals/persons; as, they DO NOT reside with the User/Patron who initially created them - they are "Public".

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    If fact, you can ONLY see "Deceased" individual/person in "Family Tree" of "FamilySearch"; except, with this 'rider', that you can ALSO only see "Living" individual/person in "Family Tree" of "FamilySearch" that YOU created; as, they reside in your "Private Spaces".

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    Here are some (including that already suggested by 'Dennis') "Knowledge Articles" in "FamilySearch" in regard to "Private Spaces" and "Living" individuals/persons:

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    What is a private space in Family Tree?

    https://www.familysearch.org/help/salesforce/viewArticle?urlname=Understanding-Private-Spaces&lang=en

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    Who can see my living relatives in Family Tree?

    https://www.familysearch.org/help/salesforce/viewArticle?urlname=Who-can-see-my-living-relatives-1381815101424&lang=en_US

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    Here is a good place to start, with how things work in "Family Tree" of "FamilySearch" (and, other programmes as well):

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    Introducing The Family History Guide

    https://www.familysearch.org/ask/learningViewer/733

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    Introducing The Family History Guide

    https://ps-services-us-east-1-914248642252.s3.amazonaws.com/s3%2Fhelp-learningcenter-fh1-prod-s3%2F2019%2F03%2F08%2F9b82903f-89e0-426f-8815-5e652b960d17%2FIntroducing-TFHG.pdf

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    The Family History Guide

    https://www.thefhguide.com/.

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    I hope this helps.

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    Brett

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  • Family Bible
    Family Bible ✭✭✭
    May 3, 2020

    Try clicking "switch position"

    also check that gender is the same on both records.

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  • Family Bible
    Family Bible ✭✭✭
    May 3, 2020

    Oh, now I see - this is a LIVING person

    you can not merge living people between two different accounts.

    living people can only exist and be seen in the account that they are created.

    they can not be shared and merged across multiple accounts.

     

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  • User15884655281373849430
    User15884655281373849430
    May 3, 2020

    I've tried logged in as me and also logged in as my spouse

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  • User15920802960922658013
    User15920802960922658013 ✭
    June 13, 2020 edited February 10, 2021
    Does anyone know how to merge 2 accounts on living people? My husband has two different ID numbers and is getting frustrated on how to view his tree.
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  • Dennis J Yancey
    Dennis J Yancey ✭✭✭✭✭
    June 13, 2020

    You cannot share living records across multiple accounts.

    For privacy and legal reasons living persons are only accessible in the account they were created.

    see:

    https://www.familysearch.org/help/salesforce/viewArticle?urlname=Understanding-Private-Spaces&lang=en_US

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  • User15920802960922658013
    User15920802960922658013 ✭
    June 13, 2020

    Thank you, we were just hoping that he could merge his 2 accounts.

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  • Marie4Joy
    Marie4Joy ✭✭✭
    June 13, 2020

    If the patron has two accounts, one can be deleted. Please contact FamilySearch support 866-406-1830. If the patron has two "living" records of himself in his account, he can delete the one duplicate record that is not his primary record. Living records cannot be merged. The article referenced by Dennis Yancey is an excellent resource.

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  • Dennis J Yancey
    Dennis J Yancey ✭✭✭✭✭
    June 13, 2020

    yes - you can merge two accounts - - that belong to the same person.

    you cannot merge two different records from two different accounts that belong to two different people

    (you cannot merge your husbands record on your account with his record on his account - which is what I thought you were asking.

    . . .but truth is if you are referring to two different accounts that both belong to your husband - why cant he just stop using one and just use the other. (I dont think you are gaining anything by the account merge).

     

    It all boils down to whether you really meant "account merge" or if you meant the merging of the "record" for your husband inside two different accounts. Those are two different things.

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  • Allan Kibirango
    Allan Kibirango ✭
    September 3, 2021 edited September 3, 2021

    I added my spouse to my tree before she created her account. Months later, she creates her own account and it looks like our information is not automatically merged. Any help to merge this information?

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  • Allan Kibirango
    Allan Kibirango ✭
    September 3, 2021

    How do I merge accounts?

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  • Catherine0815
    Catherine0815 ✭✭
    September 3, 2021

    @Allan Kibirango

    Do you mean duplicate records in Family Tree or the actual FamilySearch account? Below I have listed the link for our help center article on merging duplicate records.


    https://www.familysearch.org/help/helpcenter/article/how-do-i-merge-possible-duplicates-in-family-tree

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  • Drew
    Drew ✭✭
    September 3, 2021

    Living people are private to the people that added them - that is to say that you cannot see living people the other people have added. Once your spouse ties in to people that are deceased and have previously been added to FamilySearch, you will see that all of those deceased people are merged in automatically.

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  • Drew
    Drew ✭✭
    September 3, 2021

    This process is explained in the attached link.

    https://www.familysearch.org/gettingstarted/create-family-tree


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  • Allan Kibirango
    Allan Kibirango ✭
    September 6, 2021

    I think I have failed to understand it. Does this mean that my wife's tree information can not be connected to mine?

    My question is about having the details of the account my wife created on her own get connect to mine.

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  • gasmodels .
    gasmodels . ✭✭✭
    September 6, 2021

    What it means is that the only records your account can share with your wife's account is records associated with deceased persons. So if your parents are living, but grandparents are deceased, your wife would need to create new living records for you and each of your parents. She could then connect the living records for your parents to the deceased records for their parents that showed in your account. Similarly you would need to add any living records in your wife's ancestors before connecting to existing deceased records. It sounds complicated but is quite straightforward once you differentiate between living records and deceased records and understand that living records are only displayed in the account where they were created.

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  • AmericanLady1953
    AmericanLady1953 mod
    September 6, 2021

    Allan Kibirango

    Your account cannot be merged with any other account. What is shared amongst all of us are the deceased persons. Living people must be added by each account holder and are visible to only that account holder. Hope these answers have helped you.

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  • IamDinnerPail
    IamDinnerPail ✭✭
    September 6, 2021

    Thank you for your question, Allan.

    We understand that you are trying to merge your account with your wife's.

    Unfortunately, we can not merge accounts.

    However, you can add your wife's family to your tree if you want, by simply adding her direct line living ancestors to her until you get to her 1st deceased ancestor. Then all you have to do is add by ID using that deceased ancestor's PID number from HER account. All the deceased ancestors connected to that 1st deceased ancestor will then populate n your tree. You can follow the same steps to add your line to her tree.

    We hope this answer has been helpful.

    As an additional note, we would like to make you aware that you can find answers to your questions by using our Help feature found in the upper right corner of any FamilySearch screen by clicking the Help icon (the small circle with the question mark), then scroll down to Help Center. Enter a few key search terms to find and select knowledge articles appropriate to your question. We hope this will be a valuable tool for your family history work.

    Let us know if you need any further assistance. Good luck.

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