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How to complete merge

User15884655281373849430
User15884655281373849430
May 3, 2020 edited July 9, 2021 in Family Tree
How to complete merge

 

I get to the below screen. I don't see a way forward. For my account and my wife's account we each have a separate entry for me. I've tried doing the merge using my wife's account as active, and with my account as active.FamilySearch

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  • Dennis J Yancey
    Dennis J Yancey ✭✭✭✭✭
    May 3, 2020 Answer ✓

    You are trying to merge two records that cant be merged.

     

    You cannot merge records for people who are living.

     

    Each spouse (under each account) will need to create a record for the other spouse - and such records cannot be merged with the corresponding record in the other account.

     

    any records for a LIVING person you create in a given account- can only be accessed in that one account (they are kept private and not shared with other accounts (for privacy and legal reasons)

     

    thus each account (1 for each spouse) will need to create a record for the other spouse - and they cannot be merged.

     

    (you are better off just using one account and sharing it between yourselves)

     

     

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  • Dennis J Yancey
    Dennis J Yancey ✭✭✭✭✭
    May 3, 2020 Answer ✓

    Information concerning people who are living

    is stored in a "private space" and is not shared with other account users

    (even if that account user is a spouse)

    this for legal reasons - due to privacy and identity laws

     

    for more info about private spaces see: https://www.familysearch.org/help/salesforce/viewArticle?urlname=Understanding-Private-Spaces&lang=en_US

     

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  • Brett .
    Brett . ✭✭✭✭✭
    May 3, 2020 Answer ✓

    @kathylouisecotton1 kathylouisecotton1​ 

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    Further to what 'Dennis' has already proffered ...

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    Short Answer: You CANNOT do what you are trying to do.

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    By way of explanation ...

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    We all have DIFFERENT (in fact, UNIQUE) 'FamilySearch Person Identifiers' (PIDs) for ALL the "Living" individuals/persons in the "Private Spaces" of OUR 'Personal' "FamilySearch" Accounts; and, that INCLUDES our IMMEDIATE Family members (ie. Spouse and Children; and even, Parents and Grandparents - if they are STILL "Living").

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    NO Other User/Patron can see ANY "Living" individuals/persons that were created by another User/Patron; as, they ONLY reside in the "Private Spaces" of the User/Patron who created them.

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    We CANNOT even see the ACTUAL Record in "Family Tree" of "FamilySearch" of our IMMEDIATE Family (eg. Spouse; Children; Parents; Siblings; ETC; Etc; etc) if they are "Living"; and, they have their own "FamilySearch" Account.

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    Of course, you can create your "Living" Family members; and, record them in "Family Tree" of "FamilySearch"; but, they will ONLY be seen by you:

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    - You cannot "Share" them with any other User/Patron.

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    - You cannot "Merge"/'Combine" them with any other "Living" individual/person residing in the "Private Spaces" of another User//Patron.

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    There is CURRENTLY no mechanism in "Family Tree" of "FamilySearch" for Users/Patrons, to "Share"; or, "give permission" to "Share", the "Living" individuals/persons in their own "Private Spaces" with/between other/another User/Patron.

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    There are a myriad of "Privacy" Laws within the many various Countries and Unions throughout the World - it is a nightmare to negotiate.

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    "Family Tree" of "FamilySearch" is used in many Countries and Unions throughout the World; and, as such, must adhere to the myriad of "Privacy" Laws throughout the World.

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    Hence, "Privacy" is one of the reasons that we cannot "Share" the "Living" individuals/persons in our own "Private Spaces" - it is NOT the ONLY reason; but, certainly has a bearing on the matter.

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    Another factor is that such would have to be 'Coded'/'Programmed' into the Programme that is "Family Tree" of "FamilySearch".

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    'Yes', these "Living" individuals/person in "Family Tree" of "FamilySearch" WILL, in fact, in many (most) cases will be "Duplicated" - unfortunately a necessary situation that currently cannot be avoided.

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    I know that there are "Duplicates" of the "Living" ME - at least, one for my Wife and each of our Children, not to mention my other ("Living") extended Family members.

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    Now ...

    That said ...

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    We do not have our OWN "Tree" in "Family Tree" of "FamilySearch".

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    We ONLY have "Branches", that are interconnected, in this SINGLE "One" World "Tree", for all of us, that is "Family Tree" of "FamilySearch".

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    "Family Tree" of "FamilySearch" is NOT like "Ancestry_com" or the like.

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    We DO NOT have "Private"/"Personal" 'Trees' in "Family Tree" of "FamilySearch" like other "Web" Sites; and/or, 'standalone' personal programmes.

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    We do not even, own; or, manage; and, are NOT even responsible for, the "Deceased" individuals/person in "Family Tree" of "FamilySearch".

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    "Family Tree" of "FamilySearch" is built on a "Open Edit" Platform - hence, why any registered User/Patron can "Edit" (ie. Add, Delete; and/or, Change) ANY "Deceased" individual/person in "Family Tree" of "FamilySearch".

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    You can certainly "Merge"/"Combine" any "Deceased" individual/person in "Family Tree" of "FamilySearch" with another "Deceased" individual/person in "Family Tree" of "FamilySearch", regardless of who the User/Patron was that initially created those "Deceased" individuals/persons; as, they DO NOT reside with the User/Patron who initially created them - they are "Public".

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    If fact, you can ONLY see "Deceased" individual/person in "Family Tree" of "FamilySearch"; except, with this 'rider', that you can ALSO only see "Living" individual/person in "Family Tree" of "FamilySearch" that YOU created; as, they reside in your "Private Spaces".

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    Here are some (including that already suggested by 'Dennis') "Knowledge Articles" in "FamilySearch" in regard to "Private Spaces" and "Living" individuals/persons:

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    What is a private space in Family Tree?

    https://www.familysearch.org/help/salesforce/viewArticle?urlname=Understanding-Private-Spaces&lang=en

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    Who can see my living relatives in Family Tree?

    https://www.familysearch.org/help/salesforce/viewArticle?urlname=Who-can-see-my-living-relatives-1381815101424&lang=en_US

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    Here is a good place to start, with how things work in "Family Tree" of "FamilySearch" (and, other programmes as well):

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    Introducing The Family History Guide

    https://www.familysearch.org/ask/learningViewer/733

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    Introducing The Family History Guide

    https://ps-services-us-east-1-914248642252.s3.amazonaws.com/s3%2Fhelp-learningcenter-fh1-prod-s3%2F2019%2F03%2F08%2F9b82903f-89e0-426f-8815-5e652b960d17%2FIntroducing-TFHG.pdf

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    The Family History Guide

    https://www.thefhguide.com/.

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    I hope this helps.

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    Brett

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  • Family Bible
    Family Bible ✭✭✭
    May 3, 2020

    Try clicking "switch position"

    also check that gender is the same on both records.

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  • Family Bible
    Family Bible ✭✭✭
    May 3, 2020

    Oh, now I see - this is a LIVING person

    you can not merge living people between two different accounts.

    living people can only exist and be seen in the account that they are created.

    they can not be shared and merged across multiple accounts.

     

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  • User15884655281373849430
    User15884655281373849430
    May 3, 2020

    I've tried logged in as me and also logged in as my spouse

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