Why can't I tag a source to a marriage event?
What are the three main sources to a person's life? Birth, Marriage and Death. I don't understand why we can't tag a source to a marriage event. It is really frustrating not to be able to tag a source to a marriage or divorce.
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I absolutely agree! It's not only frustrating but bad genealogy when you can't tag a source to an event. All it would entail is to add marriage to the tag options when you add a marriage source. Why can't this be programmed in?
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You can tag a marriage source attached to a couple relationship, but not one attached to an individual spouse's profile.
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You can tag a marriage to a source — if you're in the "couple relationship" section where FS segregates marriages.
They need to completely re-do that part of their framework if they want it to work anything like everyone expects it to work. I don't know if anyone's even working on it.
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Yes! FamilySearch, please update this feature so we can tag marriages more easily. It would be nice to have it work like the tagging features for other event types. Please and thank you!
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I've previously Suggested an Idea that sources should all be manageable in the same way from the Sources tab whether they are profile or relationship sources. It's been stuck in Idea moderation limbo since November.
I do think it is important that marriages and divorces are seen and tagged as belonging to couple relationships rather than to profiles, though. Relationships are as important as profiles to the accuracy of the tree (I'd actually say more so), and are already quite sufficiently made to look like afterthoughts by the FSFT user interface.
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You can add a source to the relationship source area if it's in your source box, but that's a stupid kludge. This really needs to be reworked.
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Unfortunately FS clearly do not see any of this as a priority, or, I suspect, even as a problem. And Suggest an Idea appears to be on indefinite hold.
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@SerraNola would it be possible to get a statement from the FS developers on any plans they may have for improving relationship (and specifically relationship source) handling within the FSFT UI, please?
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@MandyShaw1 I think you are right that they may not see this as a problem and thus not a priority. As I mentioned in a previous post I don't deal with any of the FamilyTree engineering teams. I strictly work with issues in search and images.
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Ah ok thanks @SerraNola. It would be appreciated if you could pass this one also on to the relevant person.
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You cannot tag a source to a marriage that you do not upload. Therefore if someone has added a source for a marriage but not tagged a partner in it, you have to upload your own, redundant, version of the source. Just not a good idea…
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Are you talking about the 'feature' that is the completely separate management of Person sources and Relationship ones, the latter being the only ones that can be given Marriage tags? The tagging can be done by anyone, or that is my experience, once the Relationship source is in place.
This separation doesn't look like it's going away soon, see the rest of this thread.
If your problem is different, please provide a screenshot.
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You can copy sources that someone else has uploaded/created; you don't need to re-do the work. It will, however, be a dissassociated copy, unfortunately: any corrections or other changes will not be reflected in the other instances of the source.
For example, say I found the 1930 Slovakia census on a profile's Sources list, showing her wedding date. (I attached it myself, last night, but let's pretend it was someone else.)
I suppose I could use the link and "Create New Source" in the relationship section to re-do the source, but I don't need to. Instead, I can click "View", which will open the source in a new tab, and offer a "Copy To Source Box" link.
Clicking that will add the text "Copy of" at the beginning of the source title and stick that in my Source Box.
Now I can close that tab (either the normal way or by clicking that false little "back" arrow in the maroon stripe), go to the profile's Family Members section on the Details page, and click the edit pencil below the couple's names (where it says "No Marriage Events"). On the resulting popup, I can scroll down to Sources, click "+Add Source", and choose "Attach From Source Box".
This will open the profile version/view of my source box (alarmingly in the same tab as the profile and its couple popup used to be, but don't worry, nothing's lost), where I can click the "Attach" button next to the newly-copied source (at the top of the list, unless I've gone and done something else in between).
When that's done, I can click the "Previous Page" link at the top left to go back to the profile's Details page. The couple popup will be closed, though, so there's some repetition of steps: go down to Family Members again, find and click the pencil again. The popup now has the copied source under Sources.
So now I can click "Add Event" and put in the marriage, and now I can finally tag that copied source to said marriage.
It's very convoluted and inefficient and confusing, but it does not involve the need to re-do someone else's work in creating a source.
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Perhaps I'm missing something, but on most person pages there are at least two marriages shown (the person's and their parents' - more if they were married more than once) and if you could simply "Tag" a marriage source as "Marriage," like you do birth and death, then which marriage would it be linked to? I think this is why you can only add the source when in the Edit Marriage mode.
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That's true, but the real point here is the fact that a Marriage is a Couple Relationship event (as shown on the Details tab), not a Person/Profile event, so a Marriage source needs to be tagged against its owning Relationship, not against either of its Persons.
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