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debbehagner1
debbehagner1 ✭
November 26, 2024 edited March 11 in Family Tree

LRYL-DZ5

This person is not famous. How and why is this listed as confidential? This person was born in

Turkey.

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  • Áine Ní Donnghaile
    Áine Ní Donnghaile ✭✭✭✭✭
    November 26, 2024

    LRYL-DZ5 returns a "Person Not Found" error for me.

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  • Amy Archibald
    Amy Archibald ✭✭✭✭✭
    November 26, 2024

    See these Help Center articles:
    What are living and confidential people in Family Tree?
    https://www.familysearch.org/en/help/helpcenter/article/living-and-confidential-people-in-family-tree

    How do confidential people in Family Tree become public?
    https://www.familysearch.org/en/help/helpcenter/article/are-the-confidential-people-in-my-family-tree-private-space-ever-made-public

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  • debbehagner1
    debbehagner1 ✭
    November 26, 2024

    I fix it. Thank you. it is removed from my end.

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  • JulianBrown38
    JulianBrown38 ✭✭✭
    November 26, 2024

    If you created the profile, no other user has contributed to it, and you set the birth or death place to somewhere in Turkey, then the profile will almost certainly automatically be made confidential. Turkey is one of several countries that trigger this behaviour in FamilySearch.

    There have been dozens of other discussions on this topic this year alone (search for Confidential); they don't seem to have received much in the way of a response from FamilySearch apart from references to the Help Center articles like the ones that Amy has described.

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  • MaureenE123
    MaureenE123 ✭✭✭✭✭
    November 27, 2024

    It seems to me that FamilySearch cannot realise that there were many Europeans living in the Ottoman Empire, of Christian or Jewish background, nothing to do with Moslems. If you ancestor falls into this category, look at the website Levantine Heritage Foundation, https://www.levantineheritage.com

    "About us" says "The Levantine Heritage Foundation (LHF) promotes the research, preservation and education of the heritage, arts and culture of the communities of the Levant region encompassed by the former Ottoman Empire between the 17th and 20th centuries.

    The peoples and communities who traded and settled in the area were diverse in origin and faiths, including Venetians, Genoese, Greeks, Turks, Persians, Armenians, Jews, French, Italians, British, many other Europeans and Americans. With the dissolution of the Ottoman Empire in 1923, many of the cosmopolitan communities of the Levant region scattered around the globe".

    You could try contacting FamilySearch Support, as in the article provided by Amy, even if your person died less than the 150 years mentioned, if they were part of this European community.

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  • Adrian Bruce1
    Adrian Bruce1 ✭✭✭✭✭
    November 27, 2024

    @MaureenE123 said

    "… You could try contacting FamilySearch Support, as in the article provided by Amy, even if your person died less than the 150 years mentioned … "

    My understanding (rather than personal experience) is that 150y may or may not affect anything. In other words, in at least some cases, the confidentiality is permanent. See

    https://community.familysearch.org/en/discussion/comment/574894#Comment_574894

    One of the linked articles simply says "In some instances, confidential people become public and visible to all tree users …" My emphasis, as that implies that in other instances, that doesn't happen!

    The other link says "… Administrators mark records as confidential if the ability for the public to view the information could harm the contributor. …"

    It is not at all clear from that linked article that birthplaces (and ???) will trigger confidentiality. Hence people blithely walk into that confidentiality trap without realising the dangers. I would suggest that the article be made more explicit with a phase something like "… Profiles from certain areas and eras will be automatically marked as confidential if the ability to view…"

    I believe (but could be wrong) from the various threads that, despite what the article says, the process is automatic and administrators don't mark anything as confidential. (We are, after all, told that no such people exist to police profiles).

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  • debbehagner1
    debbehagner1 ✭
    November 27, 2024

    Thank you very much for getting back to me on this.

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  • AlexisVictoria
    AlexisVictoria ✭
    December 6, 2024

    https://community.familysearch.org/en/discussion/comment/577098#Comment_577098

    The Christians there weren't just Europeans. There were and are many Christian Arabs; my own Palestinian family is Greek Orthodox Christian. That said, FS shouldn't be discriminating based on religion anyway IMHO.

    This is an ongoing and extremely frustrating issue that FamilySearch has not been helpful on when I've contacted them. Levantine genealogy is already frustrating and difficult enough as it is.

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  • debbehagner1
    debbehagner1 ✭
    December 6, 2024

    Thank you for answering this and I remove the person. Please considered this to be closed discussion….

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