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Áine Ní Donnghaile
Áine Ní Donnghaile ✭✭✭✭✭
October 7, 2024 edited March 31 in Search

We have discussed the issue of an assigned ethnicity with no factual basis many times, but I've never seen a staff response. If there has been one, please direct me to it and accept my apologies for missing it.

I'll add links to several existing threads, but this is one I saw yesterday that reminded me of the problem, again. Edith Mary Hornsby 9HZ9-R7P was born in Canada; her parents were born in England and Canada. The Source Linker "helpfully" offers American ethnicity when attaching the 1895 Minnesota State Census.

https://imgur.com/5HzsvK1

@Sam Sulser @Ashlee C. Please and thank you

Previous threads

https://community.familysearch.org/en/discussion/166314/two-long-standing-queries-problems-still-pending

https://community.familysearch.org/en/discussion/155336/ethnicity-issues

https://community.familysearch.org/en/discussion/141060/how-did-family-search-come-up-with-this-ethnicity-part

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  • Áine Ní Donnghaile
    Áine Ní Donnghaile ✭✭✭✭✭
    October 7, 2024

    Another example from the same family from a different record set - Josephine was born in Canada to Canadian-born parents. Still, she is being assigned American ethnicity with no factual basis.

    https://imgur.com/SkFOoJi

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  • Paul W
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    October 7, 2024 edited October 7, 2024

    @Áine Ní Donnghaile

    Not wishing to detract from your main point (but carrying on doing so, regardless!) I wonder if the original record (of Josephine's birth) has her race recorded as "White", as found in the image / source you reference?

    Apart from ethnicity being recorded without basis, I believe this has applied to race, too, in certain sets of records - i.e., no indication at all being shown in the original documents (of race or ethnicity).

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  • Áine Ní Donnghaile
    Áine Ní Donnghaile ✭✭✭✭✭
    October 7, 2024

    @Paul W Josephine's 1867 birth is documented in a Roman Catholic baptismal register with no reference to race or ethnicity. Top left https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-9TRQ-9X2N

    The Source Linker example I attached is from her 1922 Chicago, Illinois, death record which does document her race as white but states that she was born in Canada and states that her parents were born in Canada. The image is restricted to access at AL or FSC, and I have a copy.

    If you look at the Source Linker image I attached, the Source Linker offers both her race, White, and her ethnicity, American, to add to her profile. No need for both, especially when one is fiction/fantasy.

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  • Ashlee C.
    Ashlee C. mod
    October 7, 2024

    @Áine Ní Donnghaile I will send this to be investigated. Thanks for bringing it to our attention.

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  • Áine Ní Donnghaile
    Áine Ní Donnghaile ✭✭✭✭✭
    October 7, 2024

    Thank you @Ashlee C.

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  • Ashlee C.
    Ashlee C. mod
    October 7, 2024

    You are welcome.

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  • Paul W
    Paul W ✭✭✭✭✭
    October 7, 2024 edited October 7, 2024

    @Áine Ní Donnghaile

    Sorry, I didn't mean to take the focus off the ethnicity issue, only to reinforce the fact that there appears to be a wider issue concerning data being added to FamilySearch indexed records that never appeared in the original papers. I wonder if this relates to the indexing process itself, or a later "refinement" of the indexed material, prior to it finding its way to the historical records database. Hopefully you (we) will eventually get to the bottom of how this occurs and - more importantly - that the practice is stopped.

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  • ColinCameron
    ColinCameron ✭✭✭
    October 8, 2024

    The example of ficticious 'information' that I come across most regularly is in birth records where the parents sex is indexed, Mother's Sex: Female, Father's Sex: Male.

    One hundred years ago the idea that this needed recording would have been seen as ridiculous.

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  • SerraNola
    SerraNola mod
    June 4

    @Áine Ní Donnghaile It's come to my attention that this issue was never investigated. Have you continued to see this bug when attaching with Source Linker and if so please post recent examples.

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  • Áine Ní Donnghaile
    Áine Ní Donnghaile ✭✭✭✭✭
    June 4 edited June 4

    Yes, @SerraNola I do continue to see this issue. I'll have to dig in my files a bit to give you recent examples.

    Thank you for following up.

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