Questions about reviewing Ukrainian microfilm church records
Trying to track down a baptism record for an ancestor who was born in Rydoduby, Galicia, Austria (now present day Ukraine).
When I search that place, I found two links, one for Roman Cathloic records, one for Greek Orthodox records:
- Greek Catholic
https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/1425491?availability=Family%20History%20Library - Roman Catholic
https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/1417764?availability=Family%20History%20Library
However, both links lead to "Film 2350947
Item 4".
My questions:
- When it says "Item 4", does that mean I can zoom out and find the slide with "4" on it?
- How am I supposed to differentiate between the Greek Catholic and Roman Catholic records?
- Is it possible there are other records in there not related to the village of Rydoduby? If so, how would I know?
- Any chance this will be indexed any time soon?
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Hi
Item 4, Image 197 is an explanatory page that says that this film contains Greek Catholic metric books for 3 villages, including Rydoduby. For Rydoduby it has births 1869-1918, marriages 1888-1914, deaths 1908-1914.It is not uncommon for the records from Galicia to be wrongly marked as Roman-Catholic, when they are in fact Greek Catholic, or vice versa, so basically you will need to check both. Usually Roman Catholic records will sound a bit more Polish, and will nearly always be in Latin script, while Greek Catholic will sound more Ukrainian, and might be either Latin or occasionally Cyrillic script. However, if you have little experience, it might be hard to say which sounds which, and unless this is Cyrilic, you can't just determine whether this is Roman or Greek Catholic.
For your convenience, Rydoduby in Cyrillic looks like Pygogybu (image 198 top right corner).
I hope I managed to answer your questions, however if something is unclear, let me know. Also if you need help locating a specific person, let me know who and what year. I will try to briefly come back to your questions:
- Item 4 starts from Image 196
- You can't, only from the sound of the names, they are often mislabeled
- Yes, also from villages of Bilobozhnytsia and Bila. Usually they should be marked at the top where the respective village starts.
- No.
Like I said, if you need to find a specific person, let me know approximate year and the name.
I hope this helps.
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Usually, but not always, there will be title boards showing numbered sections on a film/DGS with multiple parts. Often, those title boards are white letters on black, so they stand out quite well when you are in thumbnail mode.
That DGS has the dividing title boards with white letters on black background .
Item 4 starts on Image 196 of 884.
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Thanks, that makes sense!
Any idea why both the Greek Catholic and Roman Catholic links are seperate if they both lead to the same "Film 2350947 Item 4" Film reference? Or how I can figure out which records are for Greek Catholics and which records are for Romain Catholics?
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I suspect that one of the catalog pages stems from an error, that is, it has the denomination wrong, but it's all in an alphabet and language that I can't read, so I can't tell which one.
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I have a genealogy contact in Ukraine who sometimes frequents this community. If he doesn't happen to see this thread shortly, I'll try contacting him for an explanation.
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And one more thing - Roman Catholic would be more likely to be in bigger cities, like centres of municipalities, and these could contain records for people from the neighbouring villages, while each village will usually have its own Greek Catholic records (or one church per 2-3 villages). So if this is a small community, it will probably be only Greek Catholic. However, if you know or suspect that some of your ancestors might have been Roman Catholic, check the closest bigger municipality (in your case, it is most likely Chortkiv, or Buchach, however it's a long shot).
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I also found this gazetteer: https://www.geshergalicia.org/galician-town-locator/
Which lists Chomiakówka (Gm. Bialy Potok) as the Roman Catholoic Center, which is 83 km away.. Is it worth checking there as well and possibly Bialoboznica if I don't find any records on the Roman Catholic side?
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It does not look like my other post went through. Retyping it out…
Thank you, this is very helpful!
If you are willing to take a look for my ancestor, that would also be appreciated!His name was Michael Borovsky. He was buried in a Roman Catholic cemetery and according to my dad (who was born well after Michael died), his wife/family were Roman Catholic.
His US draft registration card from 1917 indicates he was born in Rydoduby, Czortkow, Austria. His US Declaration of Intention from 1916 indicates he was born in Galicia, Austria. Both say his birth day was 13 October 1889. I do not know his parents and finding records for him has proven fairly difficult.I found this record: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSM9-89V8-R?i=456&cat=1417764
But the birth date doesn't line up, so I was thinking maybe I was looking at the Greek Catholic records and not the roman catholic records. (Or vice versa and he was actually Greek Catholic).
I will take a look at Chortkiv, or Buchach records, that is very good advice!
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Hi James
Unfortunately I cannot see the link you shared, maybe you could share a scan. I cannot share scans here, so I will PM you. However, I just looked up info about Michael Borowsky in the marriage certificate, and there it says that he was born on the 10 December 1886 (found it in your sources attached to the marriage). I have found so far two Michaels Borowsky in the records for Rudoduby, but the dates don't match. I will share the scans via PM.
I will look again in a couple of days and get back to you.
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Юрій847, good morning
Repaired URL from James' comment: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSM9-89V8-R?i=456&cat=1417764
The option to attach screenshots or scans has been broken here, and in PMs, for many months. I've been using imgur to attach screenshots or snips.
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Thank you both. Yes, that's the correct link - page 457 of "Film 2350947 Item 4".
I did not even realize the marriage certificate had a different birth day. Seems like birthdays were very fluid back then.
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One more thing.. I also found this:
Which appears to list out baptisms in Rydoduby in 1889. I found a Michael born Oct 5th, 1889, but don't think I see a Borovsky. Is it possible that's the Roman Catholic records?
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