New tree design
How do you feel about everyone having default (provided by familysearch) placeholder spouses on the new tree? This includes people who died before being old enough to marry.
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I'm sorry, but I'm not sure what you mean. I don't see placeholder spouses anywhere on any tree view. I know it's not as easy as it was to attach screenshots, but it is still possible.
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If you look at the tree for Joannes Mostek (GYDC-MD8), one of his sons died when he was 3 yrs old but there's a placeholder for a theoretical spouse compared to how trees used to be where there wasn't a spouse unless you added one (even a placeholder like "Never married").
A problem with this is its harder finding the people who might have incomplete profiles. And it's inappropriate having a placeholder spouse for children.0 -
This argument has been raised for many years, on this forum and the one that preceded it, showing the issue has always existed in Family Tree: nothing to do with the "new tree". A similar issue has been raised regularly in connection with any individual who never had a partner / spouse throughout their life.
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Sorry, but that's not a "placeholder." And, as Paul rightly says, it's been that way as long as I can remember. There is nothing new or different.
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@Paul W The issue isn't about whether people should be allowed to use placeholders. The issue is that that is now the default with familysearch's new design. Even people who died when they were 3 yrs old look like they have a spouse. Probably 99% of people aren't giving kids placeholder spouses to remind people that they never married.
If people want to add a placeholder to anyone fine. But don't make that the default so its easier for people to add spouses while in the tree. Ancestry lets you add people while you're in the tree but their default is everyone is single unless you add a spouse.
@Áine Ní DonnghaileFine its not a placeholder but it looks identical to people who are married so calling it a placeholder makes sense.
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@ParkerPendzuk, what "new design"?? The Family Tree person pages haven't changed in years.
And what "placeholder"? Adalbertus Mostek does not have anything even vaguely resembling a placeholder spouse. Yes, the buttons for adding family are there, same as for every profile. This is a good thing, because sometimes, the dates are wrong.
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"The old portrait pedigree will be available through the end of August 2024. Learn what is changing."
Hasn't changed in years?
There's literally a black box next to every person who doesn't have a spouse. That's the placeholder I'm talking about. Some people are seeing it and others aren't. It never used to be like this. If someone didn't have a spouse then they took up less space on the branch than people with spouses. And what does it matter if the dates are wrong. If the dates are right then a 3 yr old shouldn't have what looks like a spouse next to them.0 -
If you are certain that a person never married, then you can add the fact "No Couple Relationships" to that person's profile. Then the button for adding a spouse in the tree view will not be shown next to that person.
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@ParkerPendzuk I've added both facts "No couple Relationship" and "No Children" to the profile. As you can see the Buttons (not "Placeholders") "Add spouse" and "Add Child" have disappeard now. But, as has been said, the basic technical design here has been this way for a long, long time.
BTW: you'll have to do a major cleanup! His Grandfather G4T8-73X not only has a duplicate but also a total of 54 (!) Children. That seems very unlikely.
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I have nothing but a baptism for Aunt Mary Donlan. I don't know, yet, if she married or had children.
Old Portrait View
That's not a placeholder, and it's not a black box. It's the same option to add a person you see for parents if those have not yet been found. You won't see it when the New Portrait View is the only option
New Portrait View
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